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  • #16
    Carcassonne
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4897

    Originally posted by 2IDUSARMY
    I say the gun gets inspected by the shop Before money is exchanged.


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    What do you mean by "inspected by the shop"?

    They inspect it to make sure it isn't loaded. They are not required to make sure it is serviceable, but if I owned a gun shop, I would do a quick check to make sure it wasn't a POS gunsmith-special. I wouldn't bother if it was a high dollar 1911


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    • #17
      2IDUSARMY
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 87

      Originally posted by edgerly779
      Shop/ffl not involved in transaction except dros. Ignorant statement no ffl should be involved if they say OK then they have liability. No upside for them. Obvious why 21due has no Itrader rating.


      They're not involved, they have to check every gun that walks in anyway. They won't have any liability. And half the people on here have no I-trader rating genius!


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      • #18
        2IDUSARMY
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 87

        Originally posted by Carcassonne
        What do you mean by "inspected by the shop"?



        They inspect it to make sure it isn't loaded. They are not required to make sure it is serviceable, but if I owned a gun shop, I would do a quick check to make sure it wasn't a POS gunsmith-special. I wouldn't bother if it was a high dollar 1911





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        My thoughts exactly! I walk in with my gun and anyone can check it. Wtf do I care. Check my **** and pay me.

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        • #19
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          In this case fine but asking an ffl to be involved is not a good idea for them if their inspection qualifies the firearm as OK to buy. No upside. A simple safety check is warranted though totally up to them. You should have clarified your Idea of inspection. Money exchanged outside ffl unless ok with ffl inside.

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          • #20
            wurger
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 1433

            Originally posted by 2IDUSARMY
            You guys are missing the point. It's not just about the condition of the gun. The shop has the gun at which point you walk outside and exchange money. Or if the shop allows, exchange right there. I'm not paying anyone outside in their truck!
            That's Turners. Find somewhere else to PPT if money exchange inside the shop is a problem. You PPT at Turners, start the transaction, and then, with the gun still behind the counter, go outside and get the $$.

            And why should the shop GAF about the condition gun that they are getting $35 to PPT?

            And, as a reminder, your OP was about the shop "inspecting" the gun.

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            • #21
              Rakso
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1323

              Originally posted by 2IDUSARMY
              I say the gun gets inspected by the shop Before money is exchanged.


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              • #22
                killnjoke
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 826

                It is my experience that the FFL will inspect the firearm first to make sure its clear and safe for inspection by the buyer.Thats it.

                I have paid outside then went inside for PPT,paid inside during PPT,paid outside after PPT was completed. It just depends on the FFL and the seller .

                Some sellers want to be paid before paperwork is started not after and some don't care.

                Some FFL will not allow money exchanges inside while doing PPT most don't have a problem with it.

                Some FFL will not do PPT if firearms are inspected in parking lot-


                Your lack of itrader = not a lot of experience buying /selling via PPT. More experienced members here are trying to explain to you their experiences but you apparently know it all already which makes me wonder why you even started this thread.

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                • #23
                  OCEquestrian
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 6899

                  I have never had a problem at Turner's or any other FFL exchanging the money at the counter while the FFL employee is filling out the paperwork.

                  I inspect the gun when I meet the seller inside the FFL. If I find the gun acceptable we complete the transaction as the fro initiates the transfer process.
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                  • #24
                    SarcoBlaster
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1775

                    Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                    I wouldn't trust a Turner's employee. to give me advice on a gun I was buying.
                    FTFY.
                    My buyer/seller feedback.

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                    • #25
                      meno377
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                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 4911

                      Originally posted by 2IDUSARMY
                      I say the gun gets inspected by the shop Before money is exchanged.


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                      If the shop chooses to do so, that's pretty much a courtesy on their part, however I would trust very few shops in my area that I know very well. Otherwise I am inspecting the item myself inside the store and as the buyer, I won't hand over the money to the seller until they sign the release to the FFL. Only if their iTrader is high volume and it's 100% will I consider giving them the cash before they sign the item over. As a seller I respect the same treatment from the buyer and have no issue signing the release once the buyer starts the dros.

                      If the store requires us to leave to exchange the money, usually both of us will at least start the process by giving the clerk our ID's.
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                      • #26
                        2IDUSARMY
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 87

                        Originally posted by meno377
                        If the shop chooses to do so, that's pretty much a courtesy on their part, however I would trust very few shops in my area that I know very well. Otherwise I am inspecting the item myself inside the store and as the buyer, I won't hand over the money to the seller until they sign the release to the FFL. Only if their iTrader is high volume and it's 100% will I consider giving them the cash before they sign the item over. As a seller I respect the same treatment from the buyer and have no issue signing the release once the buyer starts the dros.



                        If the store requires us to leave to exchange the money, usually both of us will at least start the process by giving the clerk our ID's.


                        That's exactly how I do it.

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                        • #27
                          Erion929
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 4706

                          Originally posted by baih777
                          You never leave a shop while someone has your firearm.
                          I have done three PPT this year and many in the past. I inspect in the parking lot.
                          Pay in the parking lot. Or wait till the clerk is busy with the paperwork. Then pay the seller.
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                          • #28
                            TKM
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10657

                            Do you want to add to anybody else's job? Maybe have your barista temp check your cocoa for you? Make the guy at 7-11 taste your donut?

                            You are being unreasonable and don't seem to realize it.
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                            • #29
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21443

                              The gun store inspects the firearm for safety, nothing else. Everything else is up to the purchaser. Caveat Emptor. If you're really concerned, bring a knowledgable friend with you.
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                              • #30
                                Duck Killer
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2248

                                I only exchange money once the paperwork is done and dros is good. I am not paying for a gun if the dros is failed for some reason. Nor am I forcing the sale of a gun if the other guy fails dros. Nor am I charging the buyer for a failed dros fee.

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