A.L.I.C.E. Training

[Mute]

Thanks. I don't have any specific questions.

And, don't take this the wrong way.

I'm wanting to hear from someone that's taken the course. To see what their take on it is.

How it plays out will be dependent upon the individual instructor and how intensive the institution wants the training to be. The full course does require that the participants conduct drills with active threat role-players.

[Notpc]

I am more concerned with the safety of the instructors, my wife is a battled hardened teacher, and she also spent time in the Marines.

[OCEquestrian]

Alice Little, had total career earnings as of 2017 of $1mm . She is an expert and will train you well...

https://thealicelittle.com/about-me/

https://www.thesun.ie/news/1666740/irish-prostitute-who-works-in-las-vegas-brothel-says-legalising-the-profession-in-ireland-would-be-better-for-everyone/

[John Browning]

I've had military experience (non-combat, though, and I don't pretend to be cool door kicking type...not all military experience is the same), been a hunter and competitive shooter most of my life. I'm now a middle school teacher and have had this training. It is excellent. The old dogma of get under a desk and wait to die was always a terrible idea. ALICE will, without doubt, save lives.

I was not shocked, but definitely horrified, at how ignorant most teachers and adults are when it comes to emergency response. Most teachers/adults have all of their information conveyed via movies and TV. They think desks stop bullets, walls stop bullets...they have no clue. Our ALICE training was in conjunction with our local PD. We watched videos of multiple shootings which was hard, but really got the point across. We got into the OODA loop (which I am familiar with from the military), how getting hit with a pistol round is usually survivable unless it's a head shot and why you should keep moving. We did get shot at with some type of simulation gun and it did hurt if you got hit. The training is very mild physically, but mentally it can be a little taxing. We watched multiple shootings where people sucked themselves back into a kill zone, failed to act, and did all the wrong things. Some of those videos showed security footage from inside schools where kids were shot and killed and will stick with me for life. It's hard to watch, but lessons you don't forget.

It's training that everyone should get. ALICE itself is a fairly dumb acronym because it isn't really what the training is. Observe, Orient, Decide and Act. It's really good training that carries over to CCW, any public gathering and it is doctrine that fits with what I know to be true in terms of ballistics, shooting, and tactics. I'm now much more conscious of emergency exits in any setting you'll find me in. The kids in the library and Columbine waited forever to get killed when a door that led to the outside and safety was yards away. If they would have had and followed ALICE training, every single kid in the library would have lived.

[canman]

I was trained as an ALICE instructor.....about 10 years ago. Good training and they've done a very good job of keeping current and progressing as active shooter events have changed over the years.

Canman

[morrcarr67]

I've had military experience (non-combat, though, and I don't pretend to be cool door kicking type...not all military experience is the same), been a hunter and competitive shooter most of my life. I'm now a middle school teacher and have had this training. It is excellent. The old dogma of get under a desk and wait to die was always a terrible idea. ALICE will, without doubt, save lives.

I was not shocked, but definitely horrified, at how ignorant most teachers and adults are when it comes to emergency response. Most teachers/adults have all of their information conveyed via movies and TV. They think desks stop bullets, walls stop bullets...they have no clue. Our ALICE training was in conjunction with our local PD. We watched videos of multiple shootings which was hard, but really got the point across. We got into the OODA loop (which I am familiar with from the military), how getting hit with a pistol round is usually survivable unless it's a head shot and why you should keep moving. We did get shot at with some type of simulation gun and it did hurt if you got hit. The training is very mild physically, but mentally it can be a little taxing. We watched multiple shootings where people sucked themselves back into a kill zone, failed to act, and did all the wrong things. Some of those videos showed security footage from inside schools where kids were shot and killed and will stick with me for life. It's hard to watch, but lessons you don't forget.

It's training that everyone should get. ALICE itself is a fairly dumb acronym because it isn't really what the training is. Observe, Orient, Decide and Act. It's really good training that carries over to CCW, any public gathering and it is doctrine that fits with what I know to be true in terms of ballistics, shooting, and tactics. I'm now much more conscious of emergency exits in any setting you'll find me in. The kids in the library and Columbine waited forever to get killed when a door that led to the outside and safety was yards away. If they would have had and followed ALICE training, every single kid in the library would have lived.

That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for your insight.

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