July 1st question

[Armed-Citizen]

Is there a final word yet on max ammo per month law?

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[Quiet]

Is there a final word yet on max ammo per month law?

The amount of ammunition a person can legally buy or sell does not change after 06-30-19.

Currently...
Selling = limited to 500 rounds per 30 days, unless licensed by CA DOJ as an ammunition vendor.
Buying = no limit.

[Armed-Citizen]

So buying a 1000 now and 1000july 1st,
Not really An difference, except background check and fees and less retailers to choose from?

[The Gleam]

So buying a 1000 now and 1000july 1st,
Not really An difference, except background check and fees and less retailers to choose from?

There is plenty more than that... and plenty of threads about it these past 2.5 years since Prop 63 was pitched, calls to vote against it, then it was voted for, and the numerous calls to fight it, the petition drive and its subsequent failure due to apathetic gun owners not paying attention who did not sign (or refused to sign) and many, many recent threads talking about all those extra details.

[Armed-Citizen]

Thanks for the response

[Quiet]

So buying a 1000 now and 1000july 1st,
Not really An difference, except background check and fees and less retailers to choose from?

Ammo DROS also reports the brand, type, and amount of ammunition being transferred. [PC 30352(a)(3)]


In regards to the background check...
The standard and COE checks are suppose to be "instant" (less than 1 hour) checks, but can take up to 30 days.
The ammo with firearm check can take up to 10 days.
The basic check can take up to 30 days.

[el tardo]

Or skip all this by being exempt and possessing a COE and 003FFL And have it delivered to your door

[Armed-Citizen]

Prop 63 won't affect that?

[faterikcartman]

Ammo DROS also reports the brand, type, and amount of ammunition being transferred.

Amount.

A good portion of the state, elected representatives, and all MSM reporters, already view 1,000 rounds as a stock pile no normal person would ever need. Only a gun nut or terrorist hell bent on mayhem.

If you were worried about your guns being on some list in Sacramento, don't think you're not going to be eventually of note if you buy ammo in any great quantity.

Save your breath explaining about competing, training, etc., etc. It will fall on deaf ears.

Creeping incrementalism. Which I mention because there will inevitably be those who say "relax, it's no big deal..., stop being paranoid". I'm not ancient. But I'm old enough to see how things progress. Inch by inch. Year after year. It's a long game. And if you're not thinking about where things will be in a decade or two you're liable to miss the individual building blocks that shape the future.

Obviously Quiet, though I quoted you, I'm not directing this to you personally.

[mwr]

"Creeping incrementalism" great description, or "inch by inch is cinch, yard by yard is hard" the left's have figured that it is far easier to strip our rights away one small piece at a time, hopeful that we will get tired of the fight and give up totally.

[elk hunter]

It would be interesting to find out what triggers a "no" sale when you apply for the sale and do a background check. Is there a no sale? and what would the reasons be for it? Is there a remedy for a false no sale? or will you be flagged as a something?

[Whiskey_Tango]

What is the deal with cross referencing your registered firearms chamberings with your ammo purchase?

They just talked about it on KCRA. Is that actually a thing or just FUD?

[champu]

What is the deal with cross referencing your registered firearms chamberings with your ammo purchase?

They just talked about it on KCRA. Is that actually a thing or just FUD?

[still919]

"Creeping incrementalism" great description, or "inch by inch is cinch, yard by yard is hard" the left's have figured that it is far easier to strip our rights away one small piece at a time, hopeful that we will get tired of the fight and give up totally.

Well said. And, it's working. They stopped swinging for the fences, and are playing small ball.

I'm still surprised at the "So, what does July 01, 2019 really mean"....on this forum of all places. I'm not picking on anyone, but it goes to show the strategy is working.

[Rivers]

My sense on the way this gets turned around is that a major meltdown has to happen in CA. By that I mean the voters need to get disgusted enough by various issues in CA, like crime, homelessness, mental health, immigration, taxes, cost of living, public education, CA's pension crisis, housing prices, etc. that they rethink their votes. When the legislature shifts to becoming more responsible (conservative), then we can work on restoring some normalcy with gun-related laws.

When will this happen? If Trump gets re-elected in 2020, that might slightly speed things up. If a D gets the White House, kiss this off for a generation, and if for a generation, forever. Only a civil war would change it then.