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  • #31
    SVT-40
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2008
    • 12907

    Cool! I salute you. It's always right to correct a error, and as you said words do have meanings!!
    Poke'm with a stick!


    Originally posted by fiddletown
    What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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    • #32
      Den60
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      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2016
      • 2695

      Originally posted by hermosabeach
      Armed Security is a liability for the school.....

      Disarming LEO... especially after Florida... seems dumb to me -

      Dumb is the new thing....
      No, dumb isn't a new thing. The fact that being dumb isn't frowned upon anymore is a new thing.


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      • #33
        StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 2995

        Fontana school police for years were only allowed to openly carry a firearm during grave shift. Because of this policy most officers carried concealed during days and swings.
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        • #34
          SantaCabinetguy
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 15142

          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
          And yest, WRONG. SOME campus cops are sworn officers. Some is not all
          Outside California, you know, like in the news story, they are not.
          But, they are...

          MassArt’s Public Safety officers provide 24/7 protection, ensuring a secure, welcoming campus environment.

          MassArt police officers are academy trained and licensed as Special State Police Officers as well as Suffolk County Deputy Sheriffs.
          Just because they are unarmed on-duty, doesn't mean they aren't law enforcement officers.

          If they're cops, they're cops. If they aren't, they're not.

          You must have a very specific opinion of 'campus cops'
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          • #35
            skilletboy
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 2668

            "If the American people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the law then they will conclude that neither are they." - Michael Cannon, Cato Inst. 2014
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            • #36
              jeremiah12
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2065

              When I attended Oregon State many years ago, they had a campus security force that could ticket for various violations and detain people to be handed over to the local and state police. They were unarmed. They mostly abused their power. They patrolled campus using motorcycles and on several occasions knocked people off of bicycles just for riding in pedestrian walkways where bicycles were prohibited. A few lawsuits paid out by the state cause a change to all public colleges and universities being patrolled by the State Police. The professionalism greatly improved. The were also armed.

              I have friends that work at colleges in the midwest and on the east coast who only have security officers patrolling the campus. They are unarmed and basically are just an extra set of eyes and ears with a radio contact to a dispatcher that can quickly contact the local PD or sheriff. Some of the more liberal colleges have voted to keep guns off of campus because they are scary. Some students cannot handle seeing LE carrying a sidearm without the need to run to their safe space.
              Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

              A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

              Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

              --Librarian

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              • #37
                stevec223
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1620

                Well ok..... By a 8-2 vote the trustees,,, everyone knows just exactly who to blame... Glad everyone has that written down and knows their names... And addresses and their next of kin... Might just be easier to move your kids to another school... Easier than going all Charlie Bronson ...
                Cheers....

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                • #38
                  hmvan
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 304

                  Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                  They have neither the training nor the mindset to perform a dynamic entry during an active shooting event.

                  Nothing burger.

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                  • #39
                    FalconLair
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 3985

                    Originally posted by Scratch705
                    eh, most college campuses are such easy targets for mass attack. don't even need guns.

                    just a uhaul truck, shrapnel, and pounds of explosive material. drive it into the quad area during a "club activities week" and kaboom.

                    or if they want to go for the sneak attack, sneak it in as a booth during such an event or as a food caterer/delivery truck and same kaboom.

                    or suicide vests and have multiple persons walk onto campus (since most colleges are open campuses) and multi-kabooms.

                    or if explosives aren't available, then just have 2 vehicle drivers in trucks and just go on GTA style rampage driving over the students. have the vehicles at opposite ends of campus, and have one start driving a few minutes after the other, to get a herding effect going so the second truck can get their victims running straight to them in a large panicked mass. and if there is a passenger in the trucks, have them throw out home-made tear gas to incapacitate anyone running for easily run over later if they didn't get them in the first pass.
                    that scenario could play out in any crowded area, not just a school campus - we have to admit to ourselves that we are vulnerable practically anywhere we go

                    it's something that even a person with a firearm may not be able to prevent
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                    • #40
                      TurboS600
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1121

                      And there's still people who would stay on the job as a campus cop there? No f***ing way I'd be a cop there. FFS, anyone with half a brain knows that school campuses are gun free sheep zones. Come to think of it, I wouldn't even want to be a student there. If I was even considering attending school there or being a cop or even a teacher or any other reason to be on that campus I'd have a concealed gun on me at all times.

                      Talk about burying your head in the sand!! I can't believe the lunacy of the left. These people are seriously demented.
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                      • #41
                        TurboS600
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                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1121

                        Originally posted by FalconLair
                        that scenario could play out in any crowded area, not just a school campus - we have to admit to ourselves that we are vulnerable practically anywhere we go

                        it's something that even a person with a firearm may not be able to prevent
                        Which is why I avoid crowded public events whenever possible. Also the same reason that I don't go anywhere that I can't keep my concealed weapon on me.
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                        • #42
                          ja308
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12660

                          Originally posted by TurboS600
                          Which is why I avoid crowded public events whenever possible. Also the same reason that I don't go anywhere that I can't keep my concealed weapon on me.
                          Semper Fidelis Sir and BTW very good advice !
                          Last edited by ja308; 02-13-2019, 1:32 PM.

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                          • #43
                            BigPimping
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 21479

                            At least pepper ball guns for them.
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