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  • Forestgnome
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 213

    Paypal warning!!!

    Some of you may know, but for those that don't, Paypal prohibits using their service to sell firearms, parts for firearms, and ammunition. If they detect you've done this, they'll freeze your account, after they transfer the money.

    Isn't convenient for them to complete the transfer first? To find out what you're doing, they scan the "Message to recipient" box. For some reason I thought this was a private message, but my use of "receiver" prompted their actions.

    Reading their user agreement on "acceptable use", they state "You may not use the PayPal service for activities that: 2. relate to sales of (h) certain firearms, firearm parts or accessories, ammunition, weapons or knives". I interpreted "certain" to mean items that may be illegal if you don't have a license, or might be illegal where you live. Of course I though I had a right to use my own money legally (fool).

    Digging deeper on Paypal's website, I found this: What types of firearms related items does PayPal prohibit?
    PayPal prohibits all account holders from buying or selling any type of firearm and certain firearm parts and ammunition. PayPal may allow certain U.S. merchants to sell items addressed by this policy if they have been approved by PayPal and can ensure transactions and shipments comply with all applicable laws and regulations.

    Firearms – Include all rifles, shotguns, and handguns, whether they are intended for use in sporting, as collectibles, or as curio and relic firearms. These items are prohibited regardless of their present working order.

    Firearm parts - Include, but are not limited to, receivers and frames, silencers, kits designed to convert a firearm to automatic firing capability, high capacity magazines, multi-burst trigger activators, and camouflaging firearm containers.

    Ammunition - Includes ammunition with propellant, such as gunpowder or blank ammunition. Ammunition is defined as ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for any firearm.

    Stun guns - For U.S. residents, PayPal allows transactions for stun guns only if the transaction is permitted by law in both the buyer's and seller's jurisdictions. U.S. sellers must ensure that each transaction is legal in both locations before completing the sale. Transactions for stun guns involving account holders outside the U.S. are prohibited.

    Isn't it funny how you can sell stun guns if they're legal, but legal firearms and parts are verbotten? Just a word to the wise from a hard-learned lesson, be careful what you say!
    California Redneck
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    Knight
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1723

    Uh, duuuuh.

    But seriously, welcome to last year.
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    • #3
      olhunter
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2008
      • 3707

      Hence the term "discreet Paypal". We kinda knew this already, but thanks for the heads-up.
      It cannot be inherited, nor can it ever be purchased.
      You and no one alive can buy it for any price. It is impossible to rent and cannot be lent.
      You alone and our own have earned it with...Your sweat, blood and lives. You own it forever.

      The title is....."United States Marine".


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      • #4
        MikeinnLA
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 695

        I have a PayPal debit card so I can spend money in my PayPal account at local (non-internet) businesses. The card is also a MasterCard. When I'm buying a gun, I just tell them to make it "credit" so it just goes through MasterCard though the money comes out of PayPal. Seems to be working so far.

        Mike
        Why Johnny Ringo. You look like someone just...walked over your grave.

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        • #5
          titan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 665

          yep, I have heard people just leave all the fields blank.

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          • #6
            neomentat
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1400

            "If they detect you've done this, they'll freeze your account, after they transfer the money."

            What do you mean by this? They'll transfer the money to your account and then freeze your account? Did you not get the money or something or did they confiscate the money? This is news to me.
            "I will not fear, fear is the mind killer... I will face my fear and let it pass through me, only I will remain." Bene Gesserit training

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            • #7
              uxo2
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4003

              Originally posted by Knight
              Uh, duuuuh.

              But seriously, welcome to last year.
              Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
              Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
              One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
              George Patton

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              • #8
                missiontrails
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 7850

                How can they prove anything if both parties keep their mouths shut?

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                • #9
                  Forestgnome
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 213

                  Originally posted by Knight
                  Uh, duuuuh.

                  But seriously, welcome to last year.
                  Yeah, thanks, but I wasn't here last year, and that's the point of my message. Probably need a warning pinned to the top.
                  California Redneck

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                  • #10
                    64Chevy
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 19

                    Isn't a receiver part of a home entertainment system?

                    But isn't a receiver part of a home entertainment system? You plug the speakers, turntable and 8-track into it.

                    64chevy

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                    • #11
                      jegonzo3
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1247

                      What's for sale here?

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                      • #12
                        glockwise2000
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2533

                        Just don't a leave a message. You guys should know regarding buyer/seller agreement "discreet", "discreet", "discreet" and "discreet".
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                        • #13
                          Forestgnome
                          Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 213

                          [QUOTE=neomentat;2285489
                          What do you mean by this? They'll transfer the money to your account and then freeze your account? Did you not get the money or something or did they confiscate the money? This is news to me.[/QUOTE]

                          You'ld think that if they knew it was a transaction they don't approve of, they'ld stop the money from being transferred, or they'ld reverse it. They just transferred the funds, then froze the account of the recipient so he can't access the money.
                          California Redneck

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                          • #14
                            wilson_wwsc
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 920

                            Originally posted by 64Chevy
                            But isn't a receiver part of a home entertainment system? You plug the speakers, turntable and 8-track into it.

                            64chevy
                            I say you tell them this and send them a googled picture of your "home entertainment system reciever"
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                            • #15
                              Forestgnome
                              Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 213

                              Originally posted by jegonzo3
                              What's for sale here?
                              Sorry for hijacking the ads, but I thought it was appropriate. I needed a warning. Clearly I wasn't paranoid enough. That's been fixed.
                              California Redneck

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