Washington state gun laws

[GW]

The thing about Washington is the conservative to libtard ratio is 10 times better than it is in California. Seattle is San Francisco crazy, but the SeaTac area is really the only liberal bastion. The rest of the state is pretty conservative by all accounts. Housing prices in Vancouver are much lower than the bay area. There is no Prop 13 here however so property taxes can jump but not 2000 to $8000.
And the roads are much better here.

[L84CABO]

The thing about Washington is the conservative to libtard ratio is 10 times better than it is in California. Seattle is San Francisco crazy, but the SeaTac area is really the only liberal bastion. The rest of the state is pretty conservative by all accounts. Housing prices in Vancouver are much lower than the bay area. There is no Prop 13 here however so property taxes can jump but not 2000 to $8000.
And the roads are much better here.

This is true. Moreover there is a much higher percentage of pro gun Dems in the state compared to CA, due to the rural nature of the state. The problem, however, is still Seattle. It's size and impact on the rest of the state cannot be overstated. Particularly when it comes to politics and laws. The cesspool that is Seattle continues to grow and at some point it will overpower what is the largely conservative rest of the state. The ratio of conservatives to libtards will be irrelevant. And when that happens, you're going to get California North.

I hope I'm wrong but unless something dramatic happens to stop the Seattle growth, Washington is living on borrowed time.

[sigstroker]

The thing about Washington is the conservative to libtard ratio is 10 times better than it is in California. Seattle is San Francisco crazy, but the SeaTac area is really the only liberal bastion. The rest of the state is pretty conservative by all accounts. Housing prices in Vancouver are much lower than the bay area. There is no Prop 13 here however so property taxes can jump but not 2000 to $8000.
And the roads are much better here.

But it's like a lot of states, most of the population is in Seattle, so they make the laws for the whole state. I'll bet there are a lot of people that would like to split the state into West Washington and East Washington.

If I were going to retire in WA, I would move to Spokane. If I could stand the weather after a year, then move to Idaho.

[wireless]

I am thinking about retiring in Washington, or Oregon. What are the pros and cons?

Oregon is wonderful and I think we have a while before we start seeing strict gun laws here. WA is on a much quicker path with voter referendums. The nice thing about WA is tax set up for people who retire there. Oregon is more expensive for retires but if guns are a major concern, like I said, we've got a while before that changes.

[spfabrication]

Check out northwest firearms for threads on the PNW state firearm laws there is some good info there.

[boltstop]

If we can't beat I 1639 I'll say pass on Washington. If we do beat it then you can have anything but full auto. WA is shall issue. If you have a ccw there's no wait for your firearm when you buy. PPTs have to go through an ffl. No roster, .50 bmg is legal and 20-30 round magazines abound.
ETA. If 1639 passes there is no ban per se but ALL semi-automatic rifles, rimfire as well as center fire. 10 day wait for semi auto rifle and you must get LEO ok to get it.
It's a bad pop splatter of a law. Interestingly, there are no exemptions for leo.

"The dealer is notified in writing by the chief of police or sheriff in the jurisdiction of the purchaser's residence that the purchaser is eligible to own a firearm and that the application to purchase is approved. " <-- This is from https://ballotpedia.org/Washington_I..._Measure_(2018)

One wonders what that means. Is there any discretion? Can the police simple say Not Approved if they feel like it. Or simply ignore it altogether. Is there any time limit for response? Can the police just drag their response out - claim they are backlogged for example. What does "in writing" mean? Snail mail? Who makes the request? The purchaser or the dealer?

This really is bad law.

[guns4activists]

Best thing to do would be to do some research on WA gun laws. From what I understand, their laws are a little more relaxed. I found this site to be pretty informative when it comes to gun laws in each state.

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/gun-laws-state/washington-gun-laws/

[FeuerFrei]

There are 2 WA.'s and 2 OR.'s. Everything east of the coastal heavy populated areas is very conservative/libertarian and the coastals are NOT.
Sound familiar?
Too many out of state carpet baggers changing a great pair of states into statest paradises.

If you want conservative/libertarian values you need to move to a more center of the country fly-over states IMO. Even then you may find deep prejudices against CA. fugees.

[Yuki]

I suggest checking out waguns.org
If you join you can view their gun laws conversation
Great site

[tonyxcom]

Anywhere you move, don't just look at the gun laws now. Compare them to what they were 10-15 years ago and that will give you a better idea of where it's going. The same can be said of the states voters over the past 10-15 years. Where has the population voted on presidents and other social issues?

I think Washington falls before Oregon, but Oregon won't be far behind when it does.

[tonyxcom]

I suggest checking out waguns.org
If you join you can view their gun laws conversation
Great site

The fact that there is a waguns website is a sign of the impending doom.

[kurac]

The only thing I can add, is that we are curently in the process of moving to Springfield Oregon, I already moved the household, currently working on the shop.

Last week while I was there, we kept driving by these BiMart stores, so we finally entered one, I though it was going to be like a Winco, anyways they have a little bit of everything, including sporting goods section that had rifles, shotguns, handguns and even ammo on a shelf, I thought I took a picture of the 500 round bricks of Federal .22 for $23 but when I tried to text it to my buddy, it ended up being some packets of Foldgers, damned new phones.

[johnthomas]

I moved to Nevada to retire. Gas cheaper, no State income tax, property tax is cheaper, they treat vets well and there is so much competition for food places that every one I have tried is better and cheaper than CA. Gun laws are good. Shall issue CCW. No background check if you have a CCW. Property tax is cheaper.
Downside, Californians are moving here in droves, not just the Republicans. Clark county car registration is more expensive than CA. Car insurance is more expensive. Car must be smogged every year. DMV is busy, but you can get an appointment after a day or two. No redwood trees, hot in the summer months but bearable not humid.

[traveler1952]

Washington and Oregon are almost as nuts as Calif.

[JJE]

I am looking at either Vancouver, Bellingham Washington area, Hillsboro OR. Area, Colorado, and Nevada. Nevada last because they have no Kaiser hospital there but it is closer to family. All the other states do have a hospital. I am trying to get the pros and cons of each.

I'm also in Vancouver WA. At the moment, being in WA means all your gun law-related problems go away. LTC is as easy as it gets, short of ConCarry. No restrictions on non-NFA guns, mags or ammo. There are two glitches:

1) If you are near Oregon, you will probably want an OR LTC which is slightly tricky to get as a non-resident. It's not impossible or even difficult, it's just way harder than a WA resident permit. I've been here over 2 years and still haven't done it.

2) Every year the big-city WA politicians introduce a bunch of anti-gun measures. So far, they've had very little success, and I believe WA will always be decades better than CA as far as guns go.

Since you mention Kaiser, my wife and I had Kaiser in the SF Bay Area. It is available in southern WA, but for us it would be several hundred dollars a month more than in the Bay Area - basically we couldn't afford it and switched to a PPO plan. I recommend Vancouver Clinic for all your health needs - they are like a mini-Kaiser facility. So be sure to price the specific Kaiser plan you would get and don't just assume it will be the same price or cheaper up here.