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  • TheDigitalPicasso
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1725

    Advice on work related issue

    Hey everyone, I need some advice and I'm kinda venting (sorry). I work for a major tech company and yesterday at work I had to defend myself for being an NRA member. I device came in for repair and it had an NRA sticker on it. Few of my co-workers started saying some disgusting things about the customer for having and being an NRA member. I typically try to stay quiet because 98% of the people I work with are liberals, some far left some normal that you can hold a normal conversation with.

    So, while they're bashing the customer, I told them to stop because I myself am an NRA member and I did not appreciate the way they were speaking because it reflected on my views. At that point, the room went silent and the question came in with great hostility. The whole conversation was how we have so many school shootings and its the NRA's fault for not pushing for strict gun control laws and selling teens military fully automatic assault weapons. I did my best to reason with them but it was no point they kept pushing their own agenda. At this point, I felt like my image was compromised and at that moment a lead manager came in and found out about the convention that we're having. After about 30 minutes everything settled down and I left the room to go and help a few customers out. During this time the store leader (far left Lib) was there and the other manager told her about the conversation. She made a really nasty face expression towards me and I could tell I'm now in some serious trouble. Basically, I feel like they're going to try and find dirt on me and get me fired.

    I want to call HR and speak to them first to protect myself but then I was thinking, maybe I should talk to her first and explain to her that I might have different views on things but that does not give someone the right to talk inappropriately about my views. I have stayed silent many times and had to walk out of the room because the things people were saying. I don't know what to do, I don't want to lose my job, I love what I do and have put a lot of time to get to where I am. I don't know what to do, has anyone of you been in a similar situation?

    Sorry for the bad grammar...
  • #2
    Red9
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 2900

    Dang that sucks. I would call hr just to cover your butt.

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    • #3
      Holden Caulfield
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 50

      Originally posted by TheDigitalPicasso
      I told them to stop because I myself am an NRA member and I did not appreciate the way they were speaking because it reflected on my views.
      C'mon man, thats right out of the Liberal / SJW playbook.

      Let them have their little echo chamber and take the high road. Be a man and don't let peoples emotion-based politics phase you. Choose your battles.

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      • #4
        M1NM
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2011
        • 7966

        Go to HR and file hostile work enviroment complaint NOW. It might not keep you from getting fired but will sure be worth some bucks when your lawyer gets done with them.

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        • #5
          Dark Hunt
          Member
          • Sep 2016
          • 420

          Talk to your manager and report that the others were bashing one of the company's customers and that you felt that it was proper to stop it. Tell her that you are going to report that and the subsequent attacks on you to HR.
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          • #6
            Deog
            Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 201

            wear your MAGA hat on Monday

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            • #7
              Moemoe1
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1571

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              • #8
                inyocountymark
                Member
                • Aug 2017
                • 339

                Originally posted by Holden Caulfield
                C'mon man, thats right out of the Liberal / SJW playbook.

                Let them have their little echo chamber and take the high road. Be a man and don't let peoples emotion-based politics phase you. Choose your battles.
                Plus 1

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                • #9
                  MissiontoMars
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1544

                  I’m a supervisor. If you were someone at my work, I would have you send your supervisor and HR an email detailing the incident with yourself cc’d and then have you print a hardcopy that is date and time stamped.

                  In it, absolutely mention names, comments, and the way it made you feel. Try to remember exactly what youd said and put that in there too.

                  Then, i would have you call your HRA, (HR advisor) and get on his/her calendar. Also, if your company has a no gun/weapon policy, i would go through your car and empty it of NRA magazines, cartridge cases, ammo, eyes/ears, etc because i’m sure their company policy states they can search your vehicle when parked on company property. These things in and of themselves are obviously not illegal, but then again California is an at-will employment state, so why give them any ammunition in a case against you.

                  Finally, once all that is done...

                  Politely, genuinely, yet clearly make it clear (in a meeting with HR and your supervisor) that you will not stand for this type of treatment, that you will be affiliated with whomever you darn-well please outside of work, and that you wont tolerate for one minute longer the hostile work environment they just created.

                  If they report to someone else, these people will be brought in one by one, along with their supervision to get re-educated.

                  My .02 centz
                  Last edited by MissiontoMars; 07-22-2018, 2:42 PM.

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                  • #10
                    sfe187
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1770

                    Originally posted by inyocountymark
                    Plus 1
                    Plus 2

                    You work in an environment who are 98% turds, you just gave yourself up for whatever is coming next. This is your livelihood we're talking about, this why sometime is best to hold your tongue and play dumb.

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                    • #11
                      Jeepergeo
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3506

                      And don't forget to mention to HR that the female manager leered at you in a way that made you uncomfortable and that you feared retaliation if you spoke out or reported the incident.

                      Seriously, notify each manager of the intimidating behavior, that you feel threatened, and that it must not happen again. If done in person, record the meeting. If done via an email, bcc a copy to your personal home email, and cc HR. Review the HR handbook and make sure you follow it to a tee. If you EDC anything other than a BIC pen, perhaps rethink that. Keep your desk or work area lean and be prepared to leave for good at a moment's notice. Keep records of anything tawdry going on. Get an attorney on speed dial.

                      OR

                      Realize this may not be the best place to work and start looking for another job.

                      OR

                      Get comfortable with yourself and beliefs, go in and work hard every day, and stay out of the effing office chit chat pool.
                      Last edited by Jeepergeo; 07-22-2018, 3:00 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Jimvh2
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 681

                        4% unemployment so it's the workers market right now.... Most places are looking for people and cannot get good candidates. Go find a better job!!!!!
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                        • #13
                          FISHNFRANK
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1029

                          Do it now...


                          Do it now before it gets done to you...there is nothing wrong with turning the tables on liberals. You can beat them with their own system. Get some resumes out too

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                          • #14
                            baih777
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5680

                            Originally posted by Dark Hunt
                            Talk to your manager and report that the others were bashing one of the company's customers and that you felt that it was proper to stop it. Tell her that you are going to report that and the subsequent attacks on you to HR.
                            ^^^^^^ this
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                            • #15
                              Pretty fly for a Cabinetguy
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 4318

                              Originally posted by Jeepergeo

                              Seriously, notify each manager of the intimidating behavior, that you feel threatened, and that it must not happen again. If done in person, record the meeting. If done via an email, bcc a copy to your personal home email, and cc HR. Review the HR handbook and make sure you follow it to a tee. If you EDC anything other than a BIC pen, perhaps rethink that. Keep your desk or work area lean and be prepared to leave for good at a moment's notice. Keep records of anything tawdry going on. Get an attorney on speed dial.

                              OR

                              Realize this may not be the best place to work and start looking for another job.

                              OR

                              Get comfortable with yourself and beliefs, go in and work hard every day, and stay out of the effing office chit chat pool.
                              This right here is some great advice. I am one of our company owners...and would want to know this happened, documented properly and all employee handbook rules followed by HR from the event forward. That would include an independent internal investigation as required...crazy days in the workplace world.
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