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  • USMCM16A2
    Banned
    • Jul 2006
    • 4941

    NRA leadership needs to be Sacked.

    Folks,



    The leadership of the NRA is not keeping up with the times. I know all the die-hards are going to say "not one inch" but a well constructed "something" needs to be done. Just this morning what was in the news, 4 more young people gunned down by some ****ing mental case.
    A 29 year old with mental illness, who has run ins with the police. Was arrested on the grounds of the White House. who had all of his firearms taken, but his father gave them back. The old approach of LaPierre and his fossilized cronies is just not working.
    I have said this before, and I will say it again. That universal back round checks, on all purchases, non-recorded. Just a check to make sure that the persons involved are eligible. Wait the few minutes, NICS check your on your way. No record kept.
    Furthermore, severe penalties for those individuals and agencies that do not report ineligibility to the NICS system. Criminal and civil. Firearms prohibitions for the mentally ill, and relinquishing of all firearms. And penalties for the persons that give firearms to prohibited persons.
    There are ways to protect the 2A rights of people, and keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not. But its going to take big balls on the NRA's part. The decrepit leadership needs to be sacked, and the division needs to stop. And the power of the NRA used to further the 2A, and further the cause of ending, reducing gun violence. A2
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    DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8967

    Not sure why this would fall on the NRA leadership. His Father gave him back weapons he was not supposed to have so if anything the blame should fall there.

    There is unfortunately no 100% solution to keep someone from doing these acts. No one wants them to happen but the truth is in our current society they will continue no matter what laws are in place.
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    • #3
      ACfixer
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2012
      • 6053

      I'm assuming all 700 people killed in Chicago last would have benefited from the background checks, right OP? Just like the liberal media, you are ignoring the real problem and bowing down to the sensational stories.

      The NRA had nothing to do with this, it has nothing to do with any of the publicized killings.
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      • #4
        homelessdude
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2013
        • 2102

        So Let me get this right. You want to protect my freedom by taking more of it away? All your changes would do nothing to prevent a stupid father from returning four guns to his son. We could also go back to the Florida shooter and look at how many laws he broke and how many Government agencies were warned about him and did nothing. They ignore the laws we have and you think we need more. The government is not the best group of people to protect you from your neighbors. You are. And don't get me started on the slippery slope of mental health and gun ownership. It takes bigger balls to stand your ground and stop carving up little pieces of your rights. I respectfully disagree with your proposals but respect your right to express them. Have a great day.

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        • #5
          ef9boy88
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 645

          The reason for the "not one inch" stance is that every time there has been an inch given it has cost us a mile. We also rarely get anything back. The assault weapon ban expired and now the definition of assault weapons in some states has changed greatly and been tightened up yet again.

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          • #6
            MrTokarev
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 2823

            Not this **** again.
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            A Fistful of Dollars

            Originally posted by BKinzey
            The chuckleheaded tinfoil-asshatter racist (yes! that's a couple of names and a label!)

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            • #7
              71MUSTY
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2014
              • 7029

              Originally posted by USMCM16A2
              Folks,



              The leadership of the NRA is not keeping up with the times. I know all the die-hards are going to say "not one inch" but a well constructed "something" needs to be done. Just this morning what was in the news, 4 more young people gunned down by some ****ing mental case.
              A 29 year old with mental illness, who has run ins with the police. Was arrested on the grounds of the White House. who had all of his firearms taken, but his father gave them back. The old approach of LaPierre and his fossilized cronies is just not working.
              I have said this before, and I will say it again. That universal back round checks, on all purchases, non-recorded. Just a check to make sure that the persons involved are eligible. Wait the few minutes, NICS check your on your way. No record kept.
              Furthermore, severe penalties for those individuals and agencies that do not report ineligibility to the NICS system. Criminal and civil. Firearms prohibitions for the mentally ill, and relinquishing of all firearms. And penalties for the persons that give firearms to prohibited persons.
              There are ways to protect the 2A rights of people, and keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not. But its going to take big balls on the NRA's part. The decrepit leadership needs to be sacked, and the division needs to stop. And the power of the NRA used to further the 2A, and further the cause of ending, reducing gun violence. A2
              Please explain how your "Solution" would have prevented this shooting????

              Instead of blaming the NRA why not go to the source. It is the Politicians who cut Mental Health, LEO and risk prevention funding.
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              We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


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              • #8
                BigFatGuy
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 3176

                They do need to be sacked. They are not fighting against BS like the OP is spouting nearly hard enough...

                They still seem to think liberals are our friends.
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                • #9
                  MrTokarev
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 2823

                  NRA-ILA Lawmaker Contact Tool
                  A Fistful of Dollars

                  Originally posted by BKinzey
                  The chuckleheaded tinfoil-asshatter racist (yes! that's a couple of names and a label!)

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                  • #10
                    toiletfighter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 3870

                    Another pro gun control post by ol’ A2... no thanks.
                    Last edited by toiletfighter; 04-23-2018, 11:31 AM.
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                    • #11
                      John Henry
                      Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 117

                      Let me see if I’ve got this straight: In your post you say:

                      1. He had verified mental illness
                      2. He had run ins with the police
                      3. He was arrested on White House grounds
                      4. All of his firearms were taken and given to his father
                      5. His father gave all of the weapons back to the son

                      Now, in light of all of the failures above, you blame this on the NRA?
                      I consider myself fairly intelligent but what part of this am I not understanding? There could have been dozens more draconian gun control laws on the books and none of them would have made a damn bit of difference.

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                      • #12
                        unusedusername
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4124

                        Strange, I agree with a2, but for the opposite reason.

                        Current NRA leadership is wasting a perfect opportunity to advance rights at a national level. We have the most firearm friendly Congress and Executive that we have seen in 10+ years. Why are we not passing significant legislation?

                        Why does NRA get involved in non-firearms related topics? It gave the FCC director an award for undoing net neutrality, and congratulated the OC SO for their stance on sanctuary cities, neither of which has anything to do with guns. NRA official channels keep getting involved in pissing matches over social media over immigration.

                        "Not one inch" is terrible policy as it implies you are playing defense. We need offense. I'd be ok to lose an inch if we gain a mile in return.
                        Last edited by unusedusername; 04-23-2018, 10:58 AM.

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                        • #13
                          saxman
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 555

                          Originally posted by USMCM16A2
                          Folks,



                          The leadership of the NRA is not keeping up with the times. I know all the die-hards are going to say "not one inch" but a well constructed "something" needs to be done. Just this morning what was in the news, 4 more young people gunned down by some ****ing mental case.
                          A 29 year old with mental illness, who has run ins with the police. Was arrested on the grounds of the White House. who had all of his firearms taken, but his father gave them back. The old approach of LaPierre and his fossilized cronies is just not working.
                          I have said this before, and I will say it again. That universal back round checks, on all purchases, non-recorded. Just a check to make sure that the persons involved are eligible. Wait the few minutes, NICS check your on your way. No record kept.
                          Furthermore, severe penalties for those individuals and agencies that do not report ineligibility to the NICS system. Criminal and civil. Firearms prohibitions for the mentally ill, and relinquishing of all firearms. And penalties for the persons that give firearms to prohibited persons.
                          There are ways to protect the 2A rights of people, and keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not. But its going to take big balls on the NRA's part. The decrepit leadership needs to be sacked, and the division needs to stop. And the power of the NRA used to further the 2A, and further the cause of ending, reducing gun violence. A2

                          How would UBC have helped in this situation?

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                          • #14
                            tonyxcom
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 6397

                            Originally posted by USMCM16A2
                            Folks,



                            The leadership of the NRA is not keeping up with the times. I know all the die-hards are going to say "not one inch" but a well constructed "something" needs to be done. Just this morning what was in the news, 4 more young people gunned down by some ****ing mental case.
                            A 29 year old with mental illness, who has run ins with the police. Was arrested on the grounds of the White House. who had all of his firearms taken, but his father gave them back. The old approach of LaPierre and his fossilized cronies is just not working.
                            I have said this before, and I will say it again. That universal back round checks, on all purchases, non-recorded. Just a check to make sure that the persons involved are eligible. Wait the few minutes, NICS check your on your way. No record kept.
                            Furthermore, severe penalties for those individuals and agencies that do not report ineligibility to the NICS system. Criminal and civil. Firearms prohibitions for the mentally ill, and relinquishing of all firearms. And penalties for the persons that give firearms to prohibited persons.
                            There are ways to protect the 2A rights of people, and keep firearms out of the hands of those that should not. But its going to take big balls on the NRA's part. The decrepit leadership needs to be sacked, and the division needs to stop. And the power of the NRA used to further the 2A, and further the cause of ending, reducing gun violence. A2
                            You clearly need the A4 upgrade package.

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                            • #15
                              Subotai
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 11289

                              Tell you what OP, you get them to create and pass something called, "The Second Amendment Act". In it, it will define a list of types of firearms suitable for militia and personal defense that the government "hereby" recognizes as the inalienable right of citizens to possess. Then I might agree with you.
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