Gun control argument with liberal in laws

[mlevans66]

Its not a gun debate people. Its a debate about responsibilities and being an adult. Grow up, vote, earn for yourself, protect yourself, these are the core of being an adult. Teaching people these core truths are out the window. All they teach now is VOTE for what we want. No more making STRONG men and women. No more learning how to survive on your own. Its always someone to take care of you.

The teacher, the foreigner are just children. They want someone else to deal with it. Take of care the issue for them because they themselves are not strong enough. They can not be trusted so no onw else will. Its to late to teach them and they don't want you teaching the young either.

We need to bring back being adults again.

[MarikinaMan]

No fair. We need to know what happened after you went for the jugular.

[jimmykan]

The teacher, even though she is liberal, she will listen and I started my conversation with her because she will listen. On the downside, her emotions override her judgment, but she is not hopelessly forever an antigun person. Also, there were 7 nieces who were at the table and they were my intended audience. One of the nieces attending is 22 years old, and her father raised her to be a communist (He is a UCSD professor), she and I had a discussion about 4 years ago on the topic of welfare entitlements. That discussion resulted in her leaving a dinner table crying over not being able to factually debate the issue. She is now coming around and allowing logic not emotions to control her, and I enjoy a good relationship with her.

RandyD: the guy who makes girls cry at family dinners.

Just teasing, I agree with you ideologically.

[Snagglepuss]

This is why you must bring home builds to family gatherings. It destroys any argument, and makes them jealous. Antis start liking guns when you put then in their hands and tell them you made it yourself.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Standard liberal retorts.

Start an argument, when faced with a differing opinion (facts and logic), raise your voice, make faces of incredulity and mocking, state that everyone's knows what I'm talking about is true (90% of people...).

At least you didn't let him get to the name calling and threats.

[CornStrategy]

Ya I had a buddy who is not necessarily liberal get in to a conversation with me this weekend as well. He was just not understanding why people need an assault weapon.

[RandyD]

I truly hope you have more backbone than that.

I accept the fact that not everyone is suited to be a Marine infantryman, and I will always extend my assistance to others, especially women and children. My only condition is that they some gratitude. My sister in law is irresponsible, and I could write a book about her poor judgment, but she is not a rabid liberal that wants to impose her will on others. Her daughter (my 22 year old niece) is beginning to wake up. She failed out of UCSC last year, by thinking that life just adapts to the way you want your life to turn out.

[RandyD]

Libtards are experts on everything they know nothing about.
I mean forget science, there are 30 different genders!!

It is impossible to argue with morons who do not accept established fact and believe in nonsense.

Yep. They tend to make up facts, and use comments such as, "everyone knows" in their arguments.

One of the other common factors about liberals, is they are hypocrites on the principles they advocate. The communist UCSD professor brother in law, at a family function, was advocating taking care of the poor, my wife just happened to have our check book in her purse, and she asked him if he made charitable donations, he said, "No." My wife pulled out our check book and showed him that we had donated over $15K to charity that year.

[RandyD]

No fair. We need to know what happened after you went for the jugular.

He cowered and shut up as I was listing all of the countries that had committed genocide.

I have a 20 year history with this guy. His favorite tactic is to resort to passive aggressive behaviors when dealing with me (typical beta male behavior). He likes to use his iphone to fact check me. About 6 months ago, my wife commented that I keep packets of batteries in a refrigerator in my garage. He made a huge production that it was unnecessary to refrigerate batteries to increase their longevity. With 20 years of his antics, I am always ready to counter him.

[hunterb]

He cowered and shut up as I was listing all of the countries that had committed genocide.

I have a 20 year history with this guy. His favorite tactic is to resort to passive aggressive behaviors when dealing with me (typical beta male behavior). He likes to use his iphone to fact check me. About 6 months ago, my wife commented that I keep packets of batteries in a refrigerator in my garage. He made a huge production that it was unnecessary to refrigerate batteries to increase their longevity. With 20 years of his antics, I am always ready to counter him.

Your manliness threatens him. So he lashes out like an angry child.
...one day, you may have to put him over your knee and give him a good spanking!

[hmvan]

[DolphinFan]

So glad I don't talk to my libertard family. Funny though they all think they're coming to my house IF/when something happens.

[RandyD]

I am surprised that no one has commented on the reaction of the teacher. Whenever I am around her she likes to talk about her job of teaching kids and how she likes to see them develop intellectually. She is really into teaching and is conscientious about her profession. However, when it comes to securing her school from a shooting, she just reverts to doing her assigned task, and despite the gravity of the situation, she puts no thought into the consequences of her actions. It never occurred to her that her actions may endanger the kids she so highly values. For someone who is educated, and who has a job to increase the thinking ability of her students, she has an extremely myopic understanding of her actions in a life and death situation.

[k1dude]

I am surprised that no one has commented on the reaction of the teacher. Whenever I am around her she likes to talk about her job of teaching kids and how she likes to see them develop intellectually. She is really into teaching and is conscientious about her profession. However, when it comes to securing her school from a shooting, she just reverts to doing her assigned task, and despite the gravity of the situation, she puts no thought into the consequences of her actions. It never occurred to her that her actions may endanger the kids she so highly values. For someone who is educated, and who has a job to increase the thinking ability of her students, she has an extremely myopic understanding of her actions in a life and death situation.

Is she actually teaching? Encouraging independent thought? Or is she simply indoctrinating?

The reason they can't conceptualize a proper defense, is because it's contrary to their belief system that they would have to defend against evil. In their utopian world, evil doesn't exist. Why do you think hollywood so strenuously preaches moral and ethical ambiguity and relativism in their films and TV shows? So you're asking her to confront a lifetime of false narrative - which would make her whole world come crashing down.

They think the only evil in the world are conservatives, thus equating us with nazi's. And everyone knows it's OK to kill nazi's.

[Den60]

I also explained that the term militia at the time the constitution was written meant able bodied men capable of providing a defense

I know you enjoyed yourself but trying to reason with a liberal is like trying to reason with a two year old who wants something he hasn't earned.

I did bold one part of your post. What you wrote is likely correct when it comes to those who would have qualified for the militia. Perhaps we can add that to our 2A argument, that it only "allows' men to keep and bear arms. Feminists' heads would explode.