Question about Reno Gun Shows

[Pvt. Cowboy]

I heard they were requiring I.D. checks there at the Reno gunshows lately. If anyone has been lately - or is going to go to the ones in April / May 2009 - is this true?

1. Not true. Er, wait a minute. I'm sorry, I misread what you typed. YESI'm talking about the Latin meaning of the word.

8. If you don't care if anyone knows you're a Californian or not, then that's great! You're obviously not there to commit any crimes by breaking any laws (or you're black). Good luck haggling over prices at a table for items that you can legally obtain, however, mister rich-assed Californian dandy fancyboy with loads of money to burn who probably drove here in a Mercedes M-class SUV with GPS navigation.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...Want to look like an instant Northern NV person? Swing by Walmart or Walgreens or Long's Drugs once you get into town and buy a University of Nevada 'Wolfpack' logo sweater or T-shirt..

I prefer a Winnemucca Volunteer Fire Department t-shirt.

[Pvt. Cowboy]

I prefer a Winnemucca Volunteer Fire Department t-shirt.

Add LOTS more dust to your boots in that case.

[leitung]

I recently had the special agent in charge of the Sacramento ATF office come in and talk during one of my Criminal Justice classes at Sac State. He informed us that ATF agents are present at the Reno Gun Show (duh!!) And if these agents suspect that you are a California resident who has purchased a firearm(such as CA plates on your car) they will contact local law enforcement, such as Reno PD and have them initiate a traffic stop. They will then ask you what you have purchased from the gun show. If it turns out you have purchased a firearm at the Reno Gun Show, it just goes downhill from there (obviously).

And what PC do they have that a crime was commited to make a detention?

[7222 Hawker]

My understanding is that you can purchase a gun in another state - shop, show or some guy - but not take delivery. You have to have a local FFL ship it to an FFL in California, go through the usual CA purchase paperwork and waiting period. And the gun has to be CA legal. So if you are at a Reno gun show you can easily buy from local FFLs.

Is this correct?

CL

Technically yes. But good luck trying to find anyone who will sell you something. They are all hypersensitive to the issue and don't even want to deal with Californians.

[7222 Hawker]

I recently had the special agent in charge of the Sacramento ATF office come in and talk during one of my Criminal Justice classes at Sac State. He informed us that ATF agents are present at the Reno Gun Show (duh!!) And if these agents suspect that you are a California resident who has purchased a firearm(such as CA plates on your car) they will contact local law enforcement, such as Reno PD and have them initiate a traffic stop. They will then ask you what you have purchased from the gun show. If it turns out you have purchased a firearm at the Reno Gun Show, it just goes downhill from there (obviously).

I have it on good authority that at least the CHP won't bug you. Only time I heard of this was when the Feds actually were watching a parolee who bought large amounts of ammo. Truckee chippees got him - and righfully so.

[Steve O]

A combination of both Federal law and California law prohibits most Californians from acquiring most kinds of firearms while out of state.

A Nevada FFL can sell C&R long guns that are over 50 years old to an unlicensed California resident. Most of them don't know this. All other firearm sales are forbidden, even if the California resident plans to keep the firearm only in Nevada.

They might want to recover the weapon so that they can use it as evidence after they charge the seller for the illegal sale. Or they could be waiting for you to cross the border with it so they can charge you with the illegal importation.

You can only buy rifles and shotguns. They must be over 50 years old. You must acquire them from a Nevada FFL. You must take possession at the Nevada FFL's licensed premises. If the Nevada FFL is a Licensed Dealer then a Nevada gunshow can be considered an extension of his licensed premises. If the Nevada FFL is a Licensed Collector then you have to actually go to his licensed premises to pick up the rifle or shotgun.

Thanks for clarifying that for us, that only C&R rifles fall under those circumstances.

[B Strong]

the Brady website also has Nevada as a state with the gunshow loophole.

My question is for anyone whom has gone to the Reno gunshows, is this the case? I heard they were requiring I.D. checks there at the Reno gunshows lately. If anyone has been lately - or is going to go to the ones in April / May 2009 - is this true? Have they repealed the gunshow loophole in Reno.

If you're a California resident, you are required to comply with California state laws wrt firearms purchases, even out of state.

BTW - that "Gunshow Loophole" stuff from Brady or anyone else is flat-out propaganda.

[Monkeysauce]

thanks guys!

being new to the game (never really kept track of where Cali / Fed. gun laws were going), it sure is an eye opener to see where things stand. I am going to go donate some money to the NRA today!!!

[weezil_boi]

I recently had the special agent in charge of the Sacramento ATF office come in and talk during one of my Criminal Justice classes at Sac State. He informed us that ATF agents are present at the Reno Gun Show (duh!!) And if these agents suspect that you are a California resident who has purchased a firearm(such as CA plates on your car) they will contact local law enforcement, such as Reno PD and have them initiate a traffic stop. They will then ask you what you have purchased from the gun show. If it turns out you have purchased a firearm at the Reno Gun Show, it just goes downhill from there (obviously).

Nope...

[calidefector]

The Feds ARE at the Reno shows.

I found this one time on accident looking for info the Reno gun show: http://www.survival-enterprises.com/renogunshow.html

Although, when someone starts with the "Jew" stuff...

[Gator Monroe]

I have found every thing I want at The Big Reno Gun Show (& more) but I do not buy Firearms there !

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I found this one time on accident looking for info the Reno gun show: http://www.survival-enterprises.com/renogunshow.html

Although, when someone starts with the "Jew" stuff...

Oh jeez, not that guy again.

He was busted for selling guns to out of state residents at the Big Reno Show. He was an FFL located in Idaho, but he was selling guns in Nevada. He claims that it is not illegal, but he plead guilty to the felony charge anyway. He says BATF just made up the rule about not selling guns to out of state residents. I guess he was too busy writing up pages of rants on his web site to bother reading up on all of the laws he needed to follow as an FFL.