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[Richmond10mm]

It's probably been 10-12 years, but in Vegas, none of the gun shops around the strip would sell any mags to CA residents. We went out to Henderson and found a shop that didn't care.

Dang, a different Vegas too? Now this is getting strange.

[TRICKSTER]

Seems to be pretty irrelevant since up until 9 days ago it wasn't crime to transport ammunition back into California.

Well, since my reply was in response to the comment that FFLS get skittish any time CA comes up on their radar and was not specific to the new ammo laws it's only irrelevant if you failed to understand the discussion. But just to make you happy, I will add the example of the case of ammo that I have arriving from out of state next week.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

To those of us who have little or no understanding of how the State or Federal Legislative process works or how laws are enforced and the Justice system is structured, new laws and their enforcement is a mysterious and frightening jungle of hidden dangers.

Anything seems possible. Anyone might be arrested and prosecuted for unknowable reasons.

This makes the State seem all powerful and tyrannical. How are us mortals to protect themselves from these God like powers?

The light of education and knowledge are the only way to push back this darkness and fear.

This is one of the greatest benefits of CalGuns, the huge body of knowledge to be found here and to teach us all what's happening, how the system works, and what's to be expected

[TRICKSTER]

Wasn't exIle machine sued by the S.F. communists for selling a legal item(rebuild kits) to Ca residents.

He was shipping rebuild kits to residents in CA. That is completely different from selling something to someone when neither of you are in CA at the time.

[ACfixer]

Overall this strikes me as an attempt to stop street racing by making gasoline harder to buy.

Except ultimately they aren't trying to stop you from racing your car, they're trying to take your car away.

[Eureka1911]

Seems to be pretty irrelevant since up until 9 days ago it wasn't crime to transport ammunition back into California.

I am still very curious how this law will even be enforced let alone actually achieve the goals they think it will.

In addition, I am of the opinion that this only affects ammo that is acquired out of state after the law went into effect. Anything purchased before the law is already your property, no matter where it was purchased. The whole idea is to stop people buying ammo out of state and bringing it back in.

Overall this strikes me as an attempt to stop street racing by making gasoline harder to buy.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Yes, just like people in general, there are some FFLs that are ignorant, irrational and paranoid, but there are more informed, rational ones than ignorant, irrational paranoid ones. This has nothing to do with the law.
Proof of this is the fact that I purchase firearms and ammo out of state pretty much every year with no issues.
It appears that your beliefs are also based on your own paranoia and have nothing to do with the actual law.

Seems to be pretty irrelevant since up until 9 days ago it wasn't crime to transport ammunition back into California.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Wasn't exIle machine sued by the S.F. communists for selling a legal item(rebuild kits) to Ca residents.

[dommypls]

Yes, just like people in general, there are some FFLs that are ignorant, irrational and paranoid, but there are more informed, rational ones than ignorant, irrational paranoid ones. This has nothing to do with the law.

It appears that your beliefs are also based on your own paranoia and have nothing to do with the actual law.

[TRICKSTER]

The point is FFLs get skittish anytime they see CA come up on there radar. There's plenty of places that won't do business with anyone in CA because they're paranoid of our laws.

Yes, just like people in general, there are some FFLs that are ignorant, irrational and paranoid, but there are more informed, rational ones than ignorant, irrational paranoid ones. This has nothing to do with the law.
Proof of this is the fact that I purchase firearms and ammo out of state pretty much every year with no issues.
It appears that your beliefs are also based on your own paranoia and have nothing to do with the actual law.

[dommypls]

The point is WHY SHOULD THEY CARE? It is not against any law for a vendor, say in Nevada, to sell ammunition or magazines to a California resident that is in Nevada. Whatever the point is that you think you are making, it is not being made.

The point is FFLs get skittish anytime they see CA come up on there radar. There's plenty of places that won't do business with anyone in CA because they're paranoid of our laws.

[TRICKSTER]

Just because you haven’t been asked doesn’t mean when some schmuck goes to pay with a credit card and gets asked for his ID and the clerk see’s he has a CA ID don’t mean they won’t ask.

Again most places don’t care because they’re just trying to make a buck but some out of state FFLs get paranoid when dealing with CA


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The point is WHY SHOULD THEY CARE? It is not against any law for a vendor, say in Nevada, to sell ammunition or magazines to a California resident that is in Nevada. Whatever the point is that you think you are making, it is not being made.

[dommypls]

So out of state ammo sellers are concerned that someone may commit an infraction by buying ammo out of state and bringing it back into California?



And I have never had a retailer ask for ID when purchasing ammo or magazines while out of state.

[beardog308]

I was waved through on the 10 Sunday. I've only been stopped when I'm pulling a boat. I do notice that everyone with a box truck or trailer get pulled to the side for a quick look in the back.

[TRICKSTER]

The same way it has to do with people purchasing magazines out of state and bringing them in?


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So out of state ammo sellers are concerned that a California resident may commit an infraction by buying ammo out of state and bringing it back into California?

And I have never had a retailer ask for ID when purchasing ammo or magazines while out of state.