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  • #76
    freakshow10mm
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 3061

    These pics are for FEDUPWBS. He wanted to see the MG with Beta mag and the MG with suppressor mounted.


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    • #77
      Rob454
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Feb 2006
      • 11254

      Originally posted by topgun7
      IThere is no place you can try to test fire it full auto safely without bringing some attention. In my honest opinion, it is not worth the trouble.

      . Of course there are times you need to fire full auto, but then controlled burst fire is necessary, except when you have to bail out with your team.

      .

      There are plenty of places where you can fire fully auto and nobody will ever know. Other than that I cant think of any time when i NEEDED a fully automatic rifle as a civilian.

      BTW i agree with your post except for the part where there is no place to fire one.

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      • #78
        freakshow10mm
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 3061

        Can't think I've NEEDED the right to free speech, but it's nice to have.

        It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.

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        • #79
          stormy_clothing
          Banned
          • Dec 2008
          • 2809

          The only thing I really wish I could legally own is a suppressor for my g21 glock like this.



          not a big deal but I would spend the money to have a nice one if I could.

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          • #80
            Jonathan Doe

            Believe it or not, I see fair amount of silencers come through my office also. I have seen some real nice home made ones in the past. I think the guy knew what to do and how to do it.

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            • #81
              GhillieGuy
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 177

              Also, is it even worth traveling with in your automobile? I can't seem to figure out what goes through peoples heads that do it. Of course 99% of the people here would love to shoot/own/make a full auto, but 99.9999% of us don't becuase of the risk involved. Plus, this just makes another great reason to go to vegas and rent a FA at that range.

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              • #82
                GhillieGuy
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 177

                Originally posted by topgun7
                Believe it or not, I see fair amount of silencers come through my office also. I have seen some real nice home made ones in the past. I think the guy knew what to do and how to do it.
                Sorry, I know I'm bringing up a dead thread! With the issue with silencers, what is the need? Unless you plan on commiting a crime there is no need what-so-ever to own a silencer. Yea, they're fun, but how much fun can a "poof" be?! The only convieniance would be no need to wear ear-muffs. But a $700 dollar can and a tax stamp wouldn't be worth it to me (if i lived in another state).

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                • #83
                  Seesm
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7812

                  I woudl like to have a silencer to be able to shoot more on my property without pissing off the neighbors....

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                  • #84
                    Stanze
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3301

                    Originally posted by GhillieGuy
                    Sorry, I know I'm bringing up a dead thread! With the issue with silencers, what is the need? Unless you plan on commiting a crime there is no need what-so-ever to own a silencer. Yea, they're fun, but how much fun can a "poof" be?! The only convieniance would be no need to wear ear-muffs. But a $700 dollar can and a tax stamp wouldn't be worth it to me (if i lived in another state).
                    It's called the "Bill of Rights", not the "Bill of Needs". The only reason we can't have suppressors is because we are oppressed in this Police state by freedom hating bill writers, bill signers and the people who elect and support them. Yes, Free(er) America can legally own suppressors after all the red-tape and taxes, but at least they can do so.

                    Your anti-gun logic (Yes, NFA items are a 2nd amendment issue) on a pro-gun forum astounds me.
                    Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

                    "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


                    "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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                    • #85
                      Maser
                      Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 144

                      Believe it or not, suppressors were added to the NFA list due to them being abused by poachers and NOT by Mafia style assassins you see portrayed in movies. And of course on the issue of FAs, SBSs, SBRs, and AOWs, they are on the list because BATF classes them as "non-sporting firearms". Really annoys me that they have the nerve to tell us what is sporting and what isn't. I've been to a few MG shoots in AZ and my uncle's ranch in NV and I can tell you there is PLENTY of sporty ways to use them. They are NOT evil like the Government wants you to believe.

                      I for one am not into the whole FA scene. IMHO, other than being fun, they don't appeal to me and are WAY too expensive to feed. If I have a semi auto centerfire firearm in my paws and I am in the mood to have it shoot FA, I am not going to be dumb enough and modify it to shoot FA and not only spend a good amount of time in jail, but also potentially ruin the firearm so it doesn't shoot anymore. It's just not worth it. Fun to me is not worth spending 15 years in prison. If I was FA fun, I can easily bump fire the gun and that's pretty much virtual FA firing. Of course I don't recommend doing it unless you practice first with it and DO NOT bump fire a semi auto handgun. It's too dangerous.

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                      • #86
                        packnrat
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 3939

                        I see no problem for any one to own a fa rifle/pistol, if you can afford to feed it it should be go for it.

                        I would love to own a .50bmg machine gun,
                        I just would have to save up all year to shoot it for sixety seconds.
                        As for mufflers for a gun, that would be perfect here, I could build up a hunting round or a good plinking round and not bug people with in a mile. ( leagle to shoot in this county if your prop is more than 5 acres).

                        But this is Ca, so have to load up and go else were to test fire, just to keep the peace.

                        .
                        big gun's...i love big gun's

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                        • #87
                          Jonathan Doe

                          My partner is working one a case which a Glock pistol has a full auto control device and functions prefectly. Actually, the control looks better than the factory Glock 18. I guess the guy will be in big trouble.

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                          • #88
                            AJAX22
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2006
                            • 14980

                            Originally posted by topgun7
                            My partner is working one a case which a Glock pistol has a full auto control device and functions prefectly. Actually, the control looks better than the factory Glock 18. I guess the guy will be in big trouble.
                            A number of those conversion devices are actually coming in from Europe these days. (you can usually tell where the device is from based on the details of how it was made)

                            I'm actually surprised that you don't run across more of them what with the ready availability overseas, the low cost and the reliable function.

                            The conversion component is unregulated in most countries. (as are silencers in much of the world)

                            As the economy continues to get worse I suspect you'll see an increase in the amount of suppressors that cross your desk. Most of the ones produced domestically (for black market sale) come out of machine/auto shops which are hard up for work and looking to make anything they can sell to make a little extra money.

                            Typically the risk/reward isn't there for these kind of things, but as skilled machinists get more desperate, the reward will probably look increasingly better.
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                            • #89
                              B Strong
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 6367

                              Originally posted by GhillieGuy
                              Sorry, I know I'm bringing up a dead thread! With the issue with silencers, what is the need? Unless you plan on commiting a crime there is no need what-so-ever to own a silencer. Yea, they're fun, but how much fun can a "poof" be?! The only convieniance would be no need to wear ear-muffs. But a $700 dollar can and a tax stamp wouldn't be worth it to me (if i lived in another state).
                              Having significant hearing damage myself from a life time of shooting, my opinion is that suppressors should be available as health and safety devices.

                              And contrary to popular fiction, cans don't make crime easier. You're not going to pull a drive by with a can and not attract attention, and you can't fire one off in a crowded place without notice either.
                              The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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                              • #90
                                B Strong
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 6367

                                Originally posted by topgun7
                                My partner is working one a case which a Glock pistol has a full auto control device and functions prefectly. Actually, the control looks better than the factory Glock 18. I guess the guy will be in big trouble.
                                There was a guy marketing them out of Argentina on another gun site years back, and they banned him rfn.

                                If the one you're examining has the selector on the back plate, it could be one of his.
                                The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
                                ___________________________________________
                                "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it."
                                - Jeff Cooper

                                Check my current auctions on Gunbroker - user name bigbasscat - see what left California before Roberti-Roos

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