Warning: Full Auto Firearms!

[stormy_clothing]

it's weird how eagerly pro gunners seem to want to rehash the same gayness over and over. The laws are retarded - being a speaking toucan able to repeat them over and over again makes you no hero.

If you want to experience a full auto gun, find some place that has them like the machine gun store in Las Vegas for rent

you'll be amazed at how fast you can waste 30 dollars in 223 ammo on a paper target.

I thought it would be cool to shoot them since the first ever gun I shot when I was 4 was a full auto ar and remembered it to be some great thing, it wasnt.

My grouping sucked and it was lame. The only thing positive is that the target was Osama and I'm pretty sure I killed him. Which hangs in my garage warning all those who might steal my tools. Maybe a full auto large caliber weapon just to get the blood flowing.

But sitting in jail forever and owing 12 billion dollars to some half *** agency dedicated to raping me of my rights just doesnt seem worth the hassle.

And trust me, some goody two shoes jerkoff person or park ranger will find you, hunt you down for a piece of that ***, I mean fine. I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA actually de-orbitted a satellite and struck you down just to catch you.

Which on the gun mentioned is like what 50 years and 1.25 million dollars in fines total

[Philthy]

Let me be clear on what Bill said.

The BOTTOM LINE is that you can't have any full auto FCG parts, even if they are not in a gun. You can't own them, possess them, have control over them - nothing!

There are exceptions, but most of us don't qualify.

Hypo: Can you possess the FA FCG if you do not possess an AR? It sounds stupid, but that is the only exception I could think.

[eijjie33]

LOL, if you hold the gun sidewayz and shout "what set you from?" then it's OK.
















Not really. . .

*You* know the exceptions, you clever dog!

[hitman13]

There is no place you can try to test fire it full auto safely without bringing some attention.

Not True! not saying it would be wise, just saying that it is not true!

[JDoe]

Topgun7 please keep the warnings coming, I've never seen them before and I'm sure many new guys haven't seen them either.

The whiners and miscreants will carry on as usual but there are many of us that want to know.

[freakshow10mm]

Oak, what are the exceptions?

Lucky SOBs that have paperwork. You gotta get yours.

[geeknow]

These threads are great and all (this is your third), but you just keep telling everyone not to commit crimes.......you are stating the obvious over and over. I mean c'mon "remember guys, don't try to make a machine gun." The people who are going to try this crap aren't going to heed your warning and everyone else already knows not to do it. Everyone knows it is illegal.

As to the stories about what you are working on, it is very interesting. I am sure most of us are interested in hearing about a lot of the stuff you are examing, but not as part of a finger waving lecture.

Ohsmily,
Respectfully, i think you are missing what he is saying. We are getting the benefit of a behind the scenes peek through topgun that would never be possible in any other venue.

what you are reading as a lecture should be looked at more as technical advice.

[Vin496]

Topgun7 please keep the warnings coming, I've never seen them before and I'm sure many new guys haven't seen them either.

The whiners and miscreants will carry on as usual but there are many of us that want to know.

You were actually unaware that having/making you rifle full auto was illegal? Really?

In case you didn't know pointing your gun at a Cop isn't a good idea either.

Just warning you.

"THE MORE YOU KNOW" ding ding ding

[SCMA-1]

Good advice....

These warnings should not be taken lightly! The political climate of Commiefornia has changed for the worst considerably over the last 25 or so years which has in turn adversely affected RKBA. Policy flows from the top down and when you look at the current political make up of both houses of the CA legislature, you can get a pretty clear picture of where we stand relative to 2A and fundamental rights in general.

There was a time when nobody cared about these issues and LE had more important matters to tend to. Now it has become a priority. Much of the Calguns membership were not involved in the gun scene back when there was no such hysteria surrounding AW's, FA's, etc. I remember back in the day these so called "assault weapons" were actually pretty cheap because nobody really wanted them. B&B, B&E, Beach Cities Armory, Specialty Products West, etc....remember those names? Remember the Great Western Gun Show? Heck, B&B used to have weekly sales posted in major newspapers for HK's, Valmet's, AK's, AR-15's, Galils, etc. You could buy an HK-91 for $420; an HK-94 for $450. Galil 223's ran around $550 while Valmets were dirt cheap; $299 for M-82 Bullpups, $359 for M-76FS and $499 for heavy barrel 308 M-78. PolyTech Ak's ran around $250 while cheaper brands could be had for as low as $150 per unit. Daewoo K1 and K2 for $189 and $225 respectively. You could buy any of these for "cash and carry" back then and private party sales didn't even require a 4473; heck, once I walked out of the Great Western with 3 "assault weapons"; no waiting period, fingerprints, registration. Ammo was bought by the case; 8 to 10 cents per round was the norm for Chinese imported and all sorts of surplus regardless of caliber. People would "experiment" at the numerous "designated shooting areas" in broad daylight; these were free, non-controlled public target shooting spots in the national forests where people would go to shoot their guns without having to pay for a range fee. Places like Texas Canyon, Kentucky Canyon, and Hunt Canyon were where gun enthusiasts would go for the day to enjoy target shooting without the expense and regulation of a paying public range.

All this is gone now; Commiefornia has become........well, exceedingly Communist. Has the state become more safe with all this nonsense legislation? Absolutely not! Actually the state has become considerably less safe for one minority group as a result of all the new laws and they are gun owners. Certainly these gun laws are wrong-minded and even unconstitutional but they ARE the law; don't fall victim to them unwittingly. Gun arrests and prosecutions have risen to an overzealous pitch in Commiefornia; be knowledgeable and compliant with the laws but push the line at your own risk!

stay safe....

SCMA-1

[gvazquez]

is it legal to have just the M-16 Bolt carrier assembly, M-16 hammer, M-16 selector, M-16 disconnector and M-16 trigger BUT WITHOUT the DIAS? and another question... almost all issued service rifles (m16s) I've seen do not have full auto only burst ( 3 round), is this what you are reffering to by selective fire? and would a DIAS put in one of those m16's with only burst convert it to full auto? could come in handy in Iraq or Afghanistan

[PIRATE14]

is it legal to have just the M-16 Bolt carrier assembly, M-16 hammer, M-16 selector, M-16 disconnector and M-16 trigger BUT WITHOUT the DIAS? and another question... almost all issued service rifles (m16s) I've seen do not have full auto only burst ( 3 round), is this what you are reffering to by selective fire? and would a DIAS put in one of those m16's with only burst convert it to full auto? could come in handy in Iraq or Afghanistan

Do not have these parts in your possession....

[SgtDinosaur]

For some reason I have no interest in owning anything full auto. I do wish it was legal to have 3 shot burst capability, though. But I can happily live without it if I have to. I suppose there are rare situations where a SAW would come in handy, but I have never been in one.

[gvazquez]

ok.. so what parts are legal then? because from what I've read full auto BCG in AR is perfectly legal since it does nothing to the firing capabilities. so what other m16 parts could you have on that would still keep the rifle semi auto and legal?

[Seesm]

SO what your saying is full auto is BAD? I am kidding of course as we all do or SHOULD know full auto or even 3 round burst is BAD! (In California anyway)

But I do however believe full auto is no big deal and in our 2a rights it does not say just 1 pull for every shot fired does it? NO it does not..

EVERYTHING I own legally configured but I do think we should be able to have what we want when we want it's America don't ya know?... (IF your a LEGAL gun owner that is and stricter laws for bad guys maybe?)

BTW if I had full auto capabilities I could not afford to shoot it now anyway!!

In my .22 I would think it very cool just well... cuz it would be cool.

[bohoki]

Who doesn't?

normally bumpfire sounds like an increaseing or decreasing frequency followed by swearing and excessive manual bolt manipulation