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  • #16
    colossians323
    Crusader for the truth!
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 21637

    Originally posted by IVC
    The signature is interesting:



    What does sexual orientation of the writer has to do with the article and why would that be included in the signature? I mean, are we supposed to put our sexual orientation on business cards?

    The rest of the article is equally weak, sprinkled with links to the anti-gun organizations and their "research" (cherry picked statistics, no proper testing of causality). It's just an agenda piece.

    --- IVC is a non-gender-confused member of CalGuns and his opinion is worth what you paid for it - nothing.
    what are you, white heterosexual privilege?
    LIVE FREE OR DIE!

    M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

    Originally posted by M. Sage
    I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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    • #17
      colossians323
      Crusader for the truth!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 21637

      Originally posted by TMB 1
      Biden probably pissed because an NRA guy stopped his guy before he got to the next church.
      without a shotgun too!
      LIVE FREE OR DIE!

      M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

      Originally posted by M. Sage
      I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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      • #18
        BrokerB
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5082

        Jack....

        That is a load of crap that as soon as you have a drink of alcohol you cannot use a firearm safely. Wonder how just our recent history of cowboy west even survived out here in the saloons.

        Take a few minutes and read history over the centruries of just warfare and alchol. Of course getting blitzed is not helpful. Having 1 or two or even more beers for some folks will do nothing negative and can be positive for their accuracy.


        I can guaran god dam tee you id rather have an arm on me in a bar with a lunatic then not. I am also not an alcoholic and dont get waisted.

        Save your breath... no I do not endorse booze and gun play. I do realize true life that someone who has a glass of wine, or even two is not a sloppy unsafe shooter if called upon.
        Beans and Bullets

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        • #19
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10258

          Originally posted by JackEllis
          They're anecdotes, not facts. To get the facts, someone needs to compile all of the relevant events and develop a scorecard. I'd be interested in seeing that scorecard if one exists. In the meantime, we're left with war stories and opinions.
          You really need to spend some time with your friend "dictionary". And a thesaurus surely wouldn't hurt your vocabulary any.

          What you so inaccurately describe as "facts" are in reality "statistics" which can be cherry picked and skewed by ignoring what you don't agree with. JUST AS you ineptly do with your own screwed up and totally innacurate definition of what constitutes facts.

          fact (făkt)►

          n.
          Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
          n.
          Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
          n.
          A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.

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          • #20
            tankarian
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4193

            Originally posted by sofbak
            An editorial piece with lots to chew on:

            https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ory-ncna821976
            Yeah, that's a lot to chew on, if you're a leftist who likes to chew on dog shiite
            BLACK RIFLES MATTER!

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            • #21
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17594

              Originally posted by JackEllis
              They're anecdotes, not facts. To get the facts, someone needs to compile all of the relevant events and develop a scorecard. I'd be interested in seeing that scorecard if one exists. In the meantime, we're left with war stories and opinions.
              Not facts? Practically every mass shooting was stopped by guns. Do you know of a single mass shooting that was stopped by any other means?
              sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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              • #22
                IVC
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 17594

                Originally posted by colossians323
                what are you, white heterosexual privilege?
                What's funny is that we are joking about this, yet the author of that article was indeed described only by his sexual orientation, army service and location. We are talking about a mainstream media website, too...
                sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                • #23
                  baggss
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3439

                  Originally posted by IVC
                  The signature is interesting:
                  Yep. It reveals the bias of the writer, as if the article itself didn't already reveal that.

                  NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member

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                  • #24
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 17819

                    Many here in California also consider cops as "bad guys with guns".

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                    • #25
                      Ross
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1240

                      Originally posted by IVC
                      The signature is interesting:



                      What does sexual orientation of the writer has to do with the article and why would that be included in the signature? I mean, are we supposed to put our sexual orientation on business cards?

                      The rest of the article is equally weak, sprinkled with links to the anti-gun organizations and their "research" (cherry picked statistics, no proper testing of causality). It's just an agenda piece.

                      --- IVC is a non-gender-confused member of CalGuns and his opinion is worth what you paid for it - nothing.
                      Because it's an in your face, accept me or else attitude.
                      sigpicand as a check against tyranny." Judge Benitez - March 2019

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                      • #26
                        avbear63
                        Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 276

                        I'll say it again.

                        We need more good guys with guns for sure.

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                        • #27
                          Ross
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1240

                          The OP article has a lot common with a few members here. "Don't do anything to the aggressor, you may inconvenience him and put him in danger. Plus, others may get upset too."
                          sigpicand as a check against tyranny." Judge Benitez - March 2019

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                          • #28
                            Californio
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 4169

                            Because identity Politics automatically validates the subject matter and your an XY or Z if you challenge it.

                            Californio, Heterosexual Army Veteran



                            Originally posted by IVC
                            The signature is interesting:



                            What does sexual orientation of the writer has to do with the article and why would that be included in the signature? I mean, are we supposed to put our sexual orientation on business cards?

                            The rest of the article is equally weak, sprinkled with links to the anti-gun organizations and their "research" (cherry picked statistics, no proper testing of causality). It's just an agenda piece.

                            --- IVC is a non-gender-confused member of CalGuns and his opinion is worth what you paid for it - nothing.
                            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                            • #29
                              sarbiker
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 750

                              Originally posted by JackEllis
                              I'm also not suggesting "good guys with guns" are entirely without merit but neither am I prepared to buy into the argument that their presence makes a meaningful difference.
                              Originally posted by JackEllis
                              They're anecdotes, not facts.......In the meantime, we're left with war stories and opinions.
                              Pastor Saves Wife, Daughters by Shooting Suspected Home Invader in Head

                              A Baptist pastor grabbed a gun and protected his wife and three daughters from an alleged home invader by shooting the suspect in the head.


                              Maybe you might want to ask the pastor's wife and children if their husband/dad's presence made a meaningful difference, or is this just another war story that does not fit your narrative..??!!
                              sigpic
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                              • #30
                                CG11
                                Member
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 216

                                More media drivel.
                                I'm not that happy to see you - It's a gun.

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