Need Help!!! for Bullet ID

[nick]

Finally, check what Chief's been reloading lately. I can't prove it beyond any reasonable doubt, but he's a shady character, being in the NAvy and all, and it's just like him to paint his bullets black

[naimad]

http://www.afte.org/forum/smf1/index.php?topic=1618.0

[chuck762]

Kinda looks like a PMC Starfire bullet but they aren't black as far as I know or at least the older ones i have aren't. Just a wild guess

[Dr Rockso]

http://www.afte.org/forum/smf1/index.php?topic=1618.0

I think we may have a winner:

[nick]

The one he's got has smaller "teeth".

[Dr Rockso]

The one he's got has smaller "teeth".

You might be right, kind of hard to tell. The one linked by naimad (picture above) says it's a bullet weight of 6.0g which is only about 93 grains...

[nick]

I'm still trying to find the pictures of that 123 gr Fiocchi JHP that supposedly had black coating, per this guy on Glocktalk:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10855942

[Dr Rockso]

I'm still trying to find the pictures of that 123 gr Fiocchi JHP that supposedly had black coating, per this guy on Glocktalk:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...php?p=10855942

The guy who posted that is LE per his profile, I bet topgun could contact him if he needs more info about the ammo.

[NeoWeird]

Alright, I may have some GOOD news for you.

I did some searching with my google-fu and everything point to the Black Talons and the SXTs, which only had 6 points and the open base. That is until I stumbled across this:

The Winchester XSZ:


Now I couldn't find any information or pictures on whether it's base is open or not, however EVERYONE agrees it is the exact same bullet as the SXT except EVERY picture I could find of it shows it with 8 or 9 distinct jagged edged points instead of the 6 soft rounded points of the SXT.





NOW FOR THE GREAT NEWS:

From what I could find, it is specifically loaded for and sold exclussively by Bass Pro Shop. If these are in fact the bullets, you've now narrowed down where they came from to a relatively small sample of possible locations, and based on distancelocation, probably only one or two probable locations.

Here's hoping you are that lucky.

ETA: I just looked at BassProShop.com and the 9mm variety only come in 115 grain. You postive that's a 124 grain bullet?

[Dr Rockso]

Those do look similar, but I don't think it's the same bullet
-topgun said he contacted Winchester who said it wasn't theirs
-115 gr vs 124 gr
-casings were stamped R-P or G.F.L. (Remington or Fiocchi)

My money is on the 123 gr Fiocchis that Nick found referenced on Glocktalk.

[NeoWeird]

Those do look similar, but I don't think it's the same bullet
-topgun said he contacted Winchester who said it wasn't theirs
-115 gr vs 124 gr
-casings were stamped R-P or G.F.L. (Remington or Fiocchi)

My money is on the 123 gr Fiocchis that Nick found referenced on Glocktalk.

I know there are several inconsistancies, but at the same time all it would take is for a 9mm revolver to be used so the Winchester casings weren't left behind (it would be nice to know if there were more than two types of bullets recovered), and for Winchester to have overlooked this specialty brand of ammo. The 115 v 124 grain is the only dead kicker, and that's why I asked if he was dead sure.

Like I said in my first post, I thought I had it until I checked BPS and saw the grain. Watch him pull out a 9 gr pebble from the HP cavity and me be right. now that would be funny.

[naimad]

This sounds like the stuff

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=8713

[Jonathan Doe]

Did any company make a black coated bullets other than Black Talon at all?

[rtlltj]

Was that pulled out of someone's body or just found outside?

[Jonathan Doe]

Was that pulled out of someone's body or just found outside?

It appeared that they didn't go through soft tissue. I have spoken to several companies and they are pointing toward the Hornady TAP ammo. Does anyone on Calguns have Hornady black coated bullets?