Need Help!!! for Bullet ID

[Guest]

I need help from the fellow Calgunners on identifying a bullet shown below. It is my case work and I cannot find the info on this bullet. It is a JHP and looks like a Black Talon, but the base in enclosed and tip has I believe 8 points. I contacted the Winchester and they said it is not their bullet. This may be from Fiocchi.

Anyone seen this kind bullet before? Do you have any of them? Any help will be greatly appreciated. If you don't want to be public, you can PM me.

[Fjold]

Most JHPs have enclosed bases.

[Jonathan Doe]

This particular one has enclosed base, but has black coating on the bullet just like Black Talon bullets. But bullet base of the Talon has open base with exposed lead. That is what puzzled me.

[anyracoon]

Could have been "Moly Coated" What caliber?

[Jonathan Doe]

Could have been "Moly Coated" What caliber?

It is 9mm Luger caliber and it is not reload I believe. There were Remington and G.F.L head stamp cartridge cases.

[Jonathan Doe]

Where's Micro Stamping when we need it ?

Maybe we need it in this case.

[bohoki]

gfl contrary to popular opinion is not "gangsta for life"

if it fiocchi

so it might be this

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/33395-5.html

what is its weight (it looks mostly intact)

[Jonathan Doe]

gfl contrary to popular opinion is not "gangsta for life"

if it fiocchi

so it might be this

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/33395-5.html

what is its weight (it looks mostly intact)

The description said it is 115 grains. My bullet is 124 grains. Anyone has any idea what this is?

[Fate]

Does the GFL case have a NATO cross on it? Possible Fiocci Italian military surplus?

[kermit]

Is the jacket steel? It could be some old german 9mm:

b. Pist. Patr. 08 S. m. E.

The cartridge case of this standard 9-mm semi-armor-piercing ammunition is the same as the ball ammunition, but the bullet has an iron or mild-steel core and a steel jacket. This ammunition may be identified by the black coloring of the bullet.

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german-infantry-weapons/pistol-ammunition.html

[Jonathan Doe]

The cases does not have the NATO cross, and it is a copper jacket with black coating. Cartridge cases found at the scene are R-P and G.F.L. I am still researching it, but I am coming up with nothing. Again, it is JHP with black coating like Black Talon and closed base. Someone somewhere have seen this. Come on, fess up.

[USN CHIEF]

The cases does not have the NATO cross, and it is a copper jacket with black coating. Cartridge cases found at the scene are R-P and G.F.L. I am still researching it, but I am coming up with nothing. Again, it is JHP with black coating like Black Talon and closed base. Someone somewhere have seen this. Come on, fess up.

On advise from from Hoffmang, I take the 5th.. Besides, I was at home with my mom when this thing went down...

[nick]

I'm still looking for pictures, but Fiocchi did make 123gr (not 124gr) black-coated bullets. They copied them from Winchester.

[nick]

JHP bullets, of course

[nick]

Also, maybe you should post it here, I'd expect there to be a lot of ammo buffs on this site:

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/