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  • #61
    Malthusian
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 4133

    Originally posted by dwalker
    I do not play timmy tactical games. I actually strongly avoid such crowds as I have no desire to gain any unintentional holes because someone was walking from one "course of fire" to another and decided to check thier "empty" gun.

    When I finish a stage we do unload show clear. If I hot holster the gun during a stage and run dry it's because I ducked up my stage plan and deserve what I get.
    Not allowed

    Remove weapon after holstering equals a trip home
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    • #62
      IVC
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 17594

      Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
      If you can mess up all those things what makes you think you can't mess up a press check? And again a press check would not have remedied any of those situations. I can see you never once thought you loaded a round in the chamber when you didn't. If you had you would have simply mentioned it as the case for the press check without listing a bunch of unrelated mistakes you made when trying to go too fast.
      I do press check very slowly and very deliberately just prior to holstering the loaded gun, not while on the run like the mistakes I mentioned. It's part of my "getting ready routine," where I also flick the lock on the holster on-off to ensure gun is seated properly.

      There is little to "mess up" - I use sling shot method and don't use my trigger finger at all. If anything, I pay attention to slide going into battery afterwards.

      You are correct that I haven't had an issue with the round not chambering, but I have seen quite a few guys go "draw-click-f@#k." It's not just about the round not chambering, it's also about completely forgetting to rack the slide. Press check, as part of the protocol, just ensures that the round is there. As for forgetting, it happens during early stages of learning - in the first few matches I would forget to load from Barney since it is not a natural thing to do. After refining my protocol and sticking to it, it's just muscle memory now.

      Also, you are correct about "trying to go too fast." You can call it "under stress" and apply it to virtually any self defense situation. Stuff happens when your brain is doing different things at the same time. That's why we have safety layers in anything gun related - mess up one, live another day.
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      • #63
        IVC
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 17594

        Originally posted by dwalker
        Either way I do not do them, but dont care if others do.
        A serious question since you are way more experienced in competition than me - do you have an objection to press checks?
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        • #64
          dwalker
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 2714

          Originally posted by IVC
          A serious question since you are way more experienced in competition than me - do you have an objection to press checks?
          I don't care if another competitor chooses to press check or not. Mainly because the RO will make sure you are facing downrange while you do it. I just do not do it and it makes me a bit nervous when I see people do it on the public line or teaching new shooters to do it on the public line.
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          Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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          • #65
            gundad
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 720

            Smokin Barrel in Simi will let you practice some different skills as long as you can show that you trained to use them. While I was there the RO was talking about watching a cowboy shooter do his rapid fire there at the range.

            People are super nice, blows the Ventura and Oxnard ranges out of the water in terms of customer service and all around coolness (Just my opinion ). But please don't go there because it will be super crowded and I wont get to shoot.
            The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing

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