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  • #46
    njineermike
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2010
    • 9784

    Originally posted by God Bless America
    And Sovereign Citizens gonna hate.
    Please cite where I have ever, in the entire history of any post, anywhere on this site, claimed to be a "sovereign citizen".

    Perjoratives.
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Dude went full CNN...
    Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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    • #47
      God Bless America
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2014
      • 5165

      Originally posted by njineermike
      Perjoratives.
      Well, no *****.

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      • #48
        monk
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4454

        City of Chandler, AZ has this too. The security company is still going to contact local PD. The only thing is you get more chances for false alarms before you get the bill with a permitted system rather than a non-permitted system. Permit isn't really the right word; it's more like a certificate.


        NRA Member
        SAF Member


        A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.

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        • #49
          swruger
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 951

          Cities can use a false alarm ordinance instead of a permit requirement in order to address false alarms. Again I don't like permit requirements when not necessary. Unfortunately bureaucracies have become so accoustomed to a permit for this or that, it happens without people really "thinking" about it before it becomes law.

          Being from eastern Washington and still owning the family farm there, sure enough, spokane requires a permit, both residential and commercial alarms. At least according to google . And spokane is still relatively conservative in my opinion. So California is not alone.

          I don't like the question about firearms in the home being on the application for one major reason in California. The application is subject to public records requests. It's up to the city clerk what information is redacted before providing copies to anyone. Typically the address is not redacted. Therefore..... I won't say more on that issue.

          Strange as it may sound, my priority for our alarm system is actually for when my family is home asleep. Ie home invasion. Wife, 4 daughters, all asleep. Door breaks, window breaks, glass breaks, and smoke detectors. And aWalther P99 within an arms reach at all times. And a really really really loud siren inside and out. Insurance will pay for theft when we aren't home.

          Only one false alarm in 23 years. Wife put out the candles on her way to work one day. Ceiling fans were off. Candle smoke set off the Smoke detectors. Fire dept showed up about 30 seconds behind me (work less than 5 miles from home).

          Man that fireman really really wanted to walk through my house even though I told him what it was. I knew what he was doing. Told him fine, go ahead. Yep he said, candles. Have a nice day and thank you I said.

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          • #50
            njineermike
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2010
            • 9784

            Originally posted by God Bless America
            Well, no *****.
            So, find where I claimed to be a "soveriegn citizen" yet?
            Originally posted by Kestryll
            Dude went full CNN...
            Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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            • #51
              God Bless America
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2014
              • 5165

              Originally posted by njineermike
              So, find where I claimed to be a "soveriegn citizen" yet?
              Find where I wrote that you claimed to be a sovereign citizen?

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              • #52
                njineermike
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2010
                • 9784

                Originally posted by God Bless America
                And Sovereign Citizens gonna hate.
                Originally posted by God Bless America
                Find where I wrote that you claimed to be a sovereign citizen?
                Ever bother reading your own posts?
                Originally posted by Kestryll
                Dude went full CNN...
                Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                • #53
                  AregularGuy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2792

                  Originally posted by ColdDeadHands1
                  A permit for your home alarm? Like "Please, my master bureaucrats, will you take my money and allow me to secure my home and protect my family and belongings?"

                  What a joke our "free" country has become.

                  Yup. Cost for this privilege in Oakland is $25 per year.
                  All posts dedicated to the memory of Stronzo Bestiale

                  "You want my sister but now scam my Glocks too?
                  How about my sister? what can she do now? Still virgin and need Glcok."

                  ---ARegularGuy

                  NRA Patron Member

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                  • #54
                    God Bless America
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2014
                    • 5165

                    Originally posted by njineermike
                    Ever bother reading your own posts?
                    I do, but that post does not state that you claim to be a sovereign citizen.

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                    • #55
                      njineermike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9784

                      Originally posted by God Bless America
                      I do, but that post does not state that you claim to be a sovereign citizen.
                      You have a severe reading comprehension issue, even with things you write. I'd suggest some schooling, since whatever you've already been to was an obvious failure.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      Dude went full CNN...
                      Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                      • #56
                        RandyD
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6673

                        Originally posted by swruger
                        Cities can use a false alarm ordinance instead of a permit requirement in order to address false alarms. Again I don't like permit requirements when not necessary. Unfortunately bureaucracies have become so accoustomed to a permit for this or that, it happens without people really "thinking" about it before it becomes law.

                        Being from eastern Washington and still owning the family farm there, sure enough, spokane requires a permit, both residential and commercial alarms. At least according to google . And spokane is still relatively conservative in my opinion. So California is not alone.

                        I don't like the question about firearms in the home being on the application for one major reason in California. The application is subject to public records requests. It's up to the city clerk what information is redacted before providing copies to anyone. Typically the address is not redacted. Therefore..... I won't say more on that issue.

                        Strange as it may sound, my priority for our alarm system is actually for when my family is home asleep. Ie home invasion. Wife, 4 daughters, all asleep. Door breaks, window breaks, glass breaks, and smoke detectors. And aWalther P99 within an arms reach at all times. And a really really really loud siren inside and out. Insurance will pay for theft when we aren't home.

                        Only one false alarm in 23 years. Wife put out the candles on her way to work one day. Ceiling fans were off. Candle smoke set off the Smoke detectors. Fire dept showed up about 30 seconds behind me (work less than 5 miles from home).

                        Man that fireman really really wanted to walk through my house even though I told him what it was. I knew what he was doing. Told him fine, go ahead. Yep he said, candles. Have a nice day and thank you I said.
                        Thanks for the well thought out post. I agree, cities should enact an ordinance that imposes a service fee on residents who have alarms that are false, and leave the rest of the citizens alone.

                        As far as informing a government entity that you own firearms. I can think of a number of ways on how that could result in an over reaction to a call to residence that has firearms, where it actually increases the level of risk for the resident and an intrusion of your Fourth Amendment rights.
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                        • #57
                          God Bless America
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2014
                          • 5165

                          Originally posted by njineermike
                          You have a severe reading comprehension issue, even with things you write. I'd suggest some schooling, since whatever you've already been to was an obvious failure.
                          Thanks for the insults.

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                          • #58
                            njineermike
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 9784

                            Originally posted by God Bless America
                            Thanks for the insults.
                            Insult? Based on your statements to myself and others in this thread, that was a compliment.
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            Dude went full CNN...
                            Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                            • #59
                              El Toro
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1406

                              Permit=Unfair Taxation
                              Western civilization represents the pinnacle of true human progress, and we should rightly be proud of it, delusional leftists be damned.

                              We know it's the family and the church not government officials who know best how to create strong and loving communities. And above all else we know this, in America, we don't worship government, we worship God.
                              President Donald J. Trump, Oct. 13, 2017

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