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  • #31
    jarhead714
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2012
    • 8663

    Originally posted by bellts
    Best Training... USMC
    Take the 5 south to San Diego. Stop when you see the yellow footprints.

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    • #32
      heidad01
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 4902

      Originally posted by CinnamonBear723
      Best training i've received was at the police academy
      I am sure it had a lot to do with your personal talent and interest. Not a scientific stat but almost half the folks coming out of there do not show an exemplary example of marksmanship. ehem, can't hit the barn standing in it.

      Starting at a young age and having mentors and interest makes a great deal of difference and puts one many steps ahead of a cold beginner.

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      • #33
        k1dude
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2009
        • 14602

        Why do I have a feeling M1sterE is an antifa trying to learn about guns and tactics?
        "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

        "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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        • #34
          Jimi Jah
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2014
          • 18668

          Originally posted by RandyD
          I have avoided professional firearms trainers. I got my start shooting, as a 7 year old kid, on my grandparents' ranch, with a .22. Shooting sparrows was a service my grandparents appreciated, because they would nest in the farm machinery and were just pests and nuisances. I would take out a sparrow with a shot and then have to walk .5 mile to where the flock flew to escape me, so I did this back and forth exercise and learned to make my shots count and got good enough to shoot sparrows on the fly with a .22 (there were no other people around so shooting in the air at birds was acceptable). In high school, I received free marksmanship training from a local gun club, that provided weekly training for teenagers to learn how to shoot in smallbore and high power competition. After high school, I spent 8+ years in the Marine Corps and they provided me with training, and then I was in Marine Force Recon where we did a lot of shooting. After the Marine Corps, I attended the San Diego Police Academy, and was the high shooter in my graduating class. During all of this I have been an avid hunter and enjoyed plinking with my .22. The idea of paying someone to teach me how to shoot is a foreign concept. Shooting is fun. There is trial and error, but your errors are learning experiences.
          That worked for my dad too. He was also WW2 USMC but a LA DA instead of a cop. I learned more from him than anyone else. I also started early with him taking me shooting. Your learning ability is enhanced at a young age, you soak it all in and it stays with you for life. Most of the BS I learned later in college I've forgotten.

          I wonder how great shooters figured this stuff out before the professional classes and instructors came about? Someone did it first, like John Glenn, Jimi Hendrix and Donald Trump.
          Last edited by Jimi Jah; 04-29-2017, 10:00 AM.

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          • #35
            tanks
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 4038

            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
            ...

            I wonder how great shooters figured this stuff out before the professional classes and instructors came about? ...
            Professional instructors have been around since medieval times and even earlier.
            "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
            "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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            • #36
              fiddletown
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 4928

              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
              ....I wonder how great shooters figured this stuff out before the professional classes and instructors came about?....
              Maybe they weren't as great as they could have been.

              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
              .....Someone did it first, like John Glenn, Jimi Hendrix and Donald Trump.
              They all acquired from others certain of the knowledge and skills they needed to do what they did.

              John Glenn did not get into an airplane having never flown one, and fly it without some prior instruction. Nor did he get into the Mercury capsule to orbit the earth without first having gone through many hours of training under the supervision of instructors.
              "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

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              • #37
                dougtoni
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 634

                The Best ive found and very reasonable priced is ART- Armed Response Training. Check it out at pistolart.net. You wont be disappointed.
                Aim small, Hit small
                I view the world over my Front Sight.
                Grandfather, please make me fast and accurate...
                Guns dont kill people, Dads with pretty Daughters kill people.

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                • #38
                  splithoof
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2015
                  • 5666

                  Gunsite Academy.
                  Yes, it is expensive compared to some others, however I assure you it is worth every penny; an educational investment in yourself. Look at the instructor cadre bios; they all have many years of experience in the field, and are excellent at passing that knowledge to the student.
                  Once you go, you will be hooked. Trust me when I say this; going there to attend classes has become a component of our household annual budget.

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                  • #39
                    M1sterE
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 25

                    Originally posted by dougtoni
                    The Best ive found and very reasonable priced is ART- Armed Response Training. Check it out at pistolart.net. You wont be disappointed.


                    This would have been gtg if it was closer. Frontsight also has a membership deal that doesn't make sense but seems to have classes for everyone.

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                    • #40
                      M1sterE
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 25

                      Originally posted by heidad01
                      At what level do you shoot currently? What is it that you need to learn or improve?
                      That's why the question "what for".


                      I just picked up my first pistol. I may take some fundamentals but will probably look into competition training courses too

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                      • #41
                        M1sterE
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 25

                        Originally posted by unusedusername
                        I agree here also. If you are looking for the "best training" with no other restrictions then join up.



                        The US special forces groups are the best trained groups in the world.


                        I might be too old and fat for that now

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                        • #42
                          M1sterE
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 25

                          Originally posted by tanks
                          Best training, hands down, is here.

                          https://www.tacticalperformancecenter.com


                          Utah is too far

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                          • #43
                            CSACANNONEER
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by RandyD
                            I have avoided professional firearms trainers. I got my start shooting, as a 7 year old kid, on my grandparents' ranch, with a .22. Shooting sparrows was a service my grandparents appreciated, because they would nest in the farm machinery and were just pests and nuisances. I would take out a sparrow with a shot and then have to walk .5 mile to where the flock flew to escape me, so I did this back and forth exercise and learned to make my shots count and got good enough to shoot sparrows on the fly with a .22 (there were no other people around so shooting in the air at birds was acceptable). In high school, I received free marksmanship training from a local gun club, that provided weekly training for teenagers to learn how to shoot in smallbore and high power competition. After high school, I spent 8+ years in the Marine Corps and they provided me with training, and then I was in Marine Force Recon where we did a lot of shooting. After the Marine Corps, I attended the San Diego Police Academy, and was the high shooter in my graduating class. During all of this I have been an avid hunter and enjoyed plinking with my .22. The idea of paying someone to teach me how to shoot is a foreign concept. Shooting is fun. There is trial and error, but your errors are learning experiences.
                            I've been shooting for over 40 years, hunting for 39 years, shooting competitively for over 30 years, etc. and, I would have saved a lot of time and money by taking a few paid classes in my early years. Instead, I was taught by my father, an avid hunter, competitive shooter and Federal LEO and had to pick up other tidbits here from other shooters as I went along. Sure, the list includes many world record holders/ champions in various shooting sports, an Olympic shooting coach, FBI firearms instructors, etc. but, it took years of luck to get those little tidbits. Paying someone in the beginning could have helped me not to develop some bad habits and waste thousands of dollars by shooting with bad techniques. I'm a cheap SOB but, in hindsight, my I tripped over thousands of dollars to save a few cents.
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                            • #44
                              RandyD
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6673

                              To me shooting is a hobby. It relaxes me. I enjoy the pursuit of accuracy and game animals when I am hunting. The money that I have put into shooting, from purchasing firearms, ammo, reloading equipment, ammo components, hunting equipment, cleaning equipment, range fees and memberships, ect is just part of the hobby. I usually tried to buy the best products possible, but I also did not waste my money. There was no standard of accuracy or proficiency that had to be acquired before I could enjoy myself at the range or on a hunting trip. I enjoyed the pursuit of learning how to shoot, so the money I spent on it, was not wasted, nor would I, in hindsight, have reallocated the funds, to pay a coach. As I stated before, that is a foreign concept to me, and in turn, I enjoy assisting and coaching others when the opportunity arises. In regards to the quantity of time, I do not regret the time I have devoted towards learning how to shoot, and also, in hindsight, I would not allocate my time differently. YMMV.
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                              • #45
                                tanks
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 4038

                                Originally posted by M1sterE
                                Utah is too far
                                An hour and a half out of Vegas. Some of the suggestions like Gunsight are even further away.
                                "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                                "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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