Hexmag Series 2

[HawkMan]

Has anyone else had any issue with the Hexmag 10/30 Series 2 Magazines?

I haven't tested them out on the range yet; however, one of the six magazines I received doesn't seat in my M&P 15 Sport 2 unless the bolt is open. The other magazines seat just fine.

I contacted Hexmag about the issue and am waiting for a response from them.

[Wordupmybrotha]

No issues here. Works great in my M&P 15 Sport I.

[omarsalah78]

May need to wear in the springs and give it a nice solid smack as the final little push into the Magwell

[omarsalah78]

I had the same issue with all my pmags

[ifilef]

How do they conform to current law (PC 16740) as 'permanently altered'?

[Nguyen]

How do they conform to current law (PC 16740) as 'permanently altered'?

[HawkMan]

May need to wear in the springs and give it a nice solid smack as the final little push into the Magwell

I've tried, this one is stubborn and not seating no matter how hard I push it.
I guess all I can do is wait for Hexmag to respond and see how they take care of it.

[HawkMan]

How do they conform to current law (PC 16740) as 'permanently altered'?

There is a spacer in the 10/30 mags which limits the number of rounds you can place in the magazine:

[KrisDSA]

20 or so A2 mags and no issues

[Barang]

There is a spacer in the 10/30 mags which limits the number of rounds you can place in the magazine:

and the spring is made for 10 rounds exclusively. It is not altered or block because it's made as 10 round that looks like 30 round.

No problems with Series-2 yet.

[ifilef]

How is that 'permanently altered' if you can readily remove the baseplate and gain access to the contents of the magazine so that you can then substitute a different spring, remove the blocking mechanism, and make it into a LCM?

Did you read the withdrawn LCM regs to get an idea of how DOJ would likely interpret 'permanently altered'?

[Barang]

How is that 'permanently altered' if you can readily remove the baseplate and gain access to the contents of the magazine so that you can then substitute a different spring, remove the blocking mechanism, and make it into a LCM?

Did you read the withdrawn LCM regs to get an idea of how DOJ would likely interpret 'permanently altered'?

It's because there's nothing to alter, it's manufactured as 10 round looking like 30 round. If you alter it to accept 30 rounds then it's illegal.
Pmag 30 round on the other hand is needed to be altered to make it 10 round because it's manufactured as 30 round.

[ifilef]

It's because there's nothing to alter, it was manufactured as 10 round looking like 30 round.
30 round Pmag as an example needed to be altered to make it 10 because it's manufactured as 30 round.

Why would they manufacture a 10-round to look like a 30-round, except to give the appearance of a 30 round. The 'cool' factor is not going to pass legal muster, IMO, if it is not permanently altered.

You can be absurd and play word games and semantics all day long but if the magazine in the words of the statute has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, well, then it must be permanently altered to accept no more than 10 rounds.

"16740.
As used in this part, “large-capacity magazine” means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds."

Let's face it. It's the law and 16740 has been around for years. If it's enforced a lot of people will be in violation of PC 32310 with the 10/20 10/30 magazines unless they are welded, expoxied and/or riveted shut.

Are your presently possessed 10/20 10/30 magazines readily accessible by sliding off the baseplate for removal of the parts and cleaning? I hate to say it, but those appear to violate PC 16740 and PC 32310 right now.

[Barang]

Why would they manufacture a 10-round to look like a 30-round, except to give the appearance of a 30 round. The 'cool' factor is not going to pass legal muster, IMO, if it is not permanently altered.

You can play word games and semantics all day long but if the magazine in the words of the statute has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, well, then it must be permanently altered to accept no more than 10 rounds.

"16740.
As used in this part, “large-capacity magazine” means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds."

I'm not playing games and semantics here. You think I'd risk getting caught using illegal mags? The Hexmag 10/30 are again manufactured as 10 round looking like 30 round. All the components inside are designed to only work with 10 rounds. There's nothing to alter because it is made as 10 round.
1) The spring is made for 10 rounds.
2) A Riser to push up the spring to make it functional.
3)Floor plate is removable like any magazine for cleaning and repairs.

Pmags 30 round needed to be altered because the inside components are for 30 rounds. Therefore, in order to be compliant it needs to be modified/altered.

[ifilef]

I'm not playing games and semantics here. You think I'd risk getting caught using illegal mags? The Hexmag 10/30 are again manufactured as 10 round looking like 30 round. All the components inside are designed to only work with 10 rounds. There's nothing to alter because it is made as 10 round.
Pmags 30 round needed to be altered because the inside components are for 30 rounds. Therefore, in order to be compliant it needs to be modified/altered.

Are you saying that Hexmag 10/30's are legal under PC 16740?

You are playing word games. The real purpose of my post is to discourage purchase of 10/20 10/30 magazines from manufacturers that have not welded, or expoxied and or riveted them shut (some manufacturers are now offering them with those modifications, which is good), OR do it yourself or have it done for you.

If one wants to periodically clean their magazines by disassembling them, the route I would suggest is to just grit one's teeth and settle for the 'stubby' 10 round magazines that were designed, configured and manufactured to hold only 10 rounds.