CA DOJ visiting gunsmiths?

[Oceanbob]

Never heard of a CDOJ person actually visiting a "Gunsmith".

And I am not kidding when I say the CDOJ people I've talked to on the phone are mostly clueless about regulations. Not to insult these well meaning government employees but you can tell they are untrained and unqualified to answer simple questions.

Let's not spread FUD.

Bob.

[stevebla]

Never heard of a CDOJ person actually visiting a "Gunsmith".

And I am not kidding when I say the CDOJ people I've talked to on the phone are mostly clueless about regulations. Not to insult these well meaning government employees but you can tell they are untrained and unqualified to answer simple questions.

Let's not spread FUD.

Bob.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and well meaning government employees

[dyson]

Glue your car key into an A2 grip, house key into an a2 flashhider with some of the end sliced off, and tie your pocket knife on a lanyard with a stock hanging off the end out of your pocket

Dont forget the surefire attachment to use the keys late night

[baih777]

Without a Type 7 FFL. He can not have a AW in his business. I don't think we will know exactly was said. Its easy to say get a lawyer. But putting out $5000 for a retainer and going thru all the legal crap and a chance of losing or having his FFL license suspended. It would not be worth it to install a flash hider.
The guy might have family to feed.
And yes. The DOJ does go into gun stores to check . FFL has to everything in order. Its a random inspection.

[BrocLuno]

It's about business. One customer lost is no biggee... Loss of license is a big deal. He might keep his FFL (fed) but loose his local business license and resale number, etc.

He could be many $K into lawyers fees and still be out of work... I would not be surprised that a few CA DOJ officers are around talking to gunsmiths. Let the rumors spread. It will dry up services. Another way to reduce the AR's moving around ...

[oc16]

I wouldnt doubt it a few years ago my ffl got a visit by the doj due to his sse conversions, right now California and doj are attempting to squeeze out firearms in anyway shape or form out of the state.

[JackRydden224]

What's the name of the gunsmith?

I will check with my gunsmith, Armstrong Arms, in Laguna Niguel to see if they have experienced something similar.

These threads without naming the gunsmith/FFL or whatever are pretty pointless.

[rkt88edmo]

And without the gunsmith naming the agent who is spreading the FUD.

DISCRETION is important though. Just blabbing someone onthe internet without allowing them to explain is exactly how FUD gets worse.

If you truly want to help the OP help their FFL/smith, take it offline.

[ke6guj]

Without a Type 7 FFL. He can not have a AW in his business. I don't think we will know exactly was said. Its easy to say get a lawyer. But putting out $5000 for a retainer and going thru all the legal crap and a chance of losing or having his FFL license suspended. It would not be worth it to install a flash hider.

what are you talking about? A Type 7 FFL doesn't let you have AWs in your business any more than a Type 1 or Type 2.

[Angrysnarf]

True or not dont blame the guy

[sigstroker]

There is a possibility the DoJ is saying this to Gunsmiths.

They too are subject to foolish notions about what the law says. I had one tell me they were allowed to arrest me for offering to attach a 7" barrel to a pistol lower. There is a law against shortening the length of a pistols barrel. Where this law is I dont know, but that is what I was told by the DoJ.

Just find another Gunsmith and move on. If you got fat stacks of cash hire a lawyer and file a suit against the DoJ for harassment.

Whenever a LE tells you something like this, ask for the PC. No PC, it's BS.

[baih777]

what are you talking about? A Type 7 FFL doesn't let you have AWs in your business any more than a Type 1 or Type 2.

My bad. He may have needed the Assault Weapons / 50 BMG permit. I thought this was included with Type 7

[ke6guj]

My bad. He may have needed the Assault Weapons / 50 BMG permit. I thought this was included with Type 7

nope. any CADOJ required permits are separate from federally-issued FFLs.


and IIRC, CADOJ even allows non-AW dealers to work on AWs as long as the owner remains onsite at all times. they only need the permit if the owners leaves the AW without them being present.

[baih777]

nope. any CADOJ required permits are separate from federally-issued FFLs.


and IIRC, CADOJ even allows non-AW dealers to work on AWs as long as the owner remains onsite at all times. they only need the permit if the owners leaves the AW without them being present.

Thanks. I am mixing Federal and CADOJ bs laws. Can't wait till I leave this state.

[Joseph Lee]

I want to think the OP's story is BS on one hand, but on the other, my own experience is that the most prolific spreaders of FUD seem to be FFL holders followed by LEO in a close second.