At the same time, I'm not sure if pissing off a person who can't pass a background check is necessarily a good idea...
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35% fee for not passing background check?
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Gavin Newsom is a lying, cheating slickster andwill beis the worst mistake California has ever madeif he getsnow that he has been elected Governor. Hollywood movie producers look to him and his oleaginous persona as a model for the corrupt "bad guy" politician character. This guy is so greasy, he could lubricate an entire arsenal of AR-15s just by breathing on them. -
"... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
"A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - UnknownComment
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35% is not outrages. When I sell a firearm, I state up front that if you are turned down it will cost you the fees for the ffl to take it in on consignment + you will have to wait for it to resale before you will receive a refund.
Don't like the terms, find another person to buy from.BT 8541
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"You sleep safe in your beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm."Comment
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Once the Firearm goes to the Fll it's really no longer the sellers .It's also not really the buyers either unless the background check is passed . Depending on where most Ffls charge a restocking fee also . You also need to think maybe seller needs the money for an emergency.
And the 10 to 30 days or longer someone or you as a buyer can't get the firearm released . Now is it the responsibility of the seller to come up with the money ? Some would some wouldn't . I have fortunately never had a this type of situation . But it is the reason I use the Ffl 5 min from my house . Not to waste my time if buyer flakes or is restricted person .Comment
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To you and me? Completely fair.
Maybe this is too much of a generalization, but felons aren't exactly the type of folks who would honor a contractual agreement; they tend to operate under their own notions of fairness and justice that are inevitably selfish and self-centered.NRA Benefactor Life Member, SAF Life Member, CCRKBA Life Member
Gavin Newsom is a lying, cheating slickster andwill beis the worst mistake California has ever madeif he getsnow that he has been elected Governor. Hollywood movie producers look to him and his oleaginous persona as a model for the corrupt "bad guy" politician character. This guy is so greasy, he could lubricate an entire arsenal of AR-15s just by breathing on them.Comment
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The hard core felon you are probably referring to most likely will know he/she is prohibited. I'd wager most people that are clueless about their status are those that had a mutual restraining order from a divorce long ago as part of the divorce decree or similar situation.To you and me? Completely fair.
Maybe this is too much of a generalization, but felons aren't exactly the type of folks who would honor a contractual agreement; they tend to operate under their own notions of fairness and justice that are inevitably selfish and self-centered."... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
"A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - UnknownComment
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I don't understand in this day and age how anyone could possibly NOT know they are prohibited. There is even a form you can fill out with the DOJ to check if you are prohibited.
I checked before I bought my first gun as I had an unfortunate event in my past. Fortunately for me it was not an issue.
If you are not sure check. If to lazy then deal with the 35% restock. Luckily I've never had anyone denied on my PPTs but if they were I wouldn't care. I got my money at the counter and the gun no longer belongs to me. The FFL can turn it in to the DOJ for all I care. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but once the paper gets submitted the gun no longer belongs to me and I can't take it back anyway
Originally posted by Citadelgrad87It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.sigpicOriginally posted by HoooperAnyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dreamComment
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And I'll add are you a Troll? Just curious as all your threads ar asking us what's legal or how much ammo to being to CA or AR registration stuff.
Hopefully not, just with Jan 2017 we get a little weary.
If not then welcome
Originally posted by Citadelgrad87It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.sigpicOriginally posted by HoooperAnyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dreamComment
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And if I sell you my gun for $2,000 and use it to buy another gun, or maybe to pay off my car, when you don't pass BG... and most people who don't pass have a very good idea why... I no longer have the money to "refund" you.
Personally, I'd tell you "Tough, you bought the gun, if you can't figure it out, the FFL will turn it over to the police. It's not MY problem... it's yours.
Once I have my cash and I've signed the paperwork at the FFL, the gun is legally yours. I'm not going to buy it back, even for $700 less than I sold it to you for.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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This.
Considering how many times I've seen people post that they would keep all of the money and the firearm, I see this as up front and honest.Originally posted by fighterpilot562Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.Comment
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Overhead a conversation at the Army Navy store. Ladies said she had a felony years ago . He is telling her to spend for the fees instead of asking the DOJ for a letter. Both of them were clueless.Comment
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