Opinions on my next purchase

[ElDub1950]

I currently have a full size 1911, it just does not conceal as well as I would like. Butt prints a bit. Yes, I have 100% reliability with it.

Then another 1911 is a reasonable choice. Your budget is up to you. Some folks would factor in adding a different caliber, but again that's just a matter of preference.

[claylakers]

Another vote for the Kimber, although I've never have any issues with any of my Glocks either

[Sandro]

Why to chose, Buy both

[blasterp7]

So I'm looking at something new to get and be my edc. I'm stuck between the Glock 23 and a Kimber Pro Carry 2. I've narrowed down between these two. I've shot both and actually like both. Being a 1911 fan, I do prefer the Kimber here, but it's a $300 plus difference in price.

What do you think you'd choose and why. I can afford the additional cost, but that's different than actually wanting to spend the extra. Looking for others reasons to see if there is a pro or con I've not considered. Thanks

Well there are several factors to consider. If your EDC is a CCW weapon, Then you need to think about many factors. Width or breadth is an extremely important factor in a CCW weapon. Length and height are factors - but I believe secondary to width.

I have carried CCW for over 40 years. I can carry a full sized 1911 with no print. A Glock is somewhat more problematic because of width - width equals print.

Glock = Block. Don't get me wrong they are great and fun weapons to shoot. But not the best to conceal (too wide).

Good holsters - good belts - and oversized clothing are the key! IWB are the best for CCW - They are also the most uncomfortable. Choices only you can make.

All of that being stated. If you want to CCW and not print - buy the Kimber and your jacket should be one size larger that normal

[robledo]

Glock 36?

Glocks are both reliable and disposable. Not a huge loss if it gets taken as evidence after a shoot and you never see it for years.

[jgstorm]

Get the Kimber. The difference in cost is not even close to what you would have to do to the Glock to make it as friendly.

[Divernhunter]

The Kimber felt better in my hand and I tested both at a range. The Kimber shot better. I am planning on getting the smaller 45ACP Kimber also. It is 3" and not 4". The grip is a bit short for me to shoot a lot but I do not plan for a lot in a defensive situation. Plus if I use a full size mag it fits just fine and shoots well. I would have bought it at the same time but I spent $2200 on several pistols and that was all I could do. Maybe next month.

[DragonDJ11]

So I went to a couple of my LGS last night and compared everything. The Pro Carry 2 has a height that is the same as my full size so the butt of the gun will still print/outline when just wearing a t-shirt. So it is out of the running.

However I came across an H&K 2000SK, I think I fell in love. The feel was just amazing. They let me rack the slide and dry fire. The DA was heavy and long (not so good in a trigger pull) but not horrible. Actually I think the pull on my Brothers S&W SD40 is similar. Anyway, the SA was very nice, crisp and light. So now I am hoping my range has one similar, if not that one, to rent so I can try it out.
Priced at $699 it is between the cost of the other 2 and seems to be a good compromise between the two platforms all around. So unless something crazy happens when trying it out at the range, that will be the next new baby to be brought home

[myk]

Glock 36?

Glocks are both reliable and disposable. Not a huge loss if it gets taken as evidence after a shoot and you never see it for years.

This right here. I would never intentionally use a "nice" gun for self defense, since you'll probably never see it again anyway. A Glock would fit the role of self defense perfectly: 100% reliable and 100% forgettable upon confiscation...

[ARDude]

I vote for BACON!

[NytWolf]

When choosing a 10mm pistol, I had the choice between a Kimber or a Glock.

I bought the Kimber first, but now I have both. I enjoy shooting the Glock more.

[coldturkey]

The 1911 is pretty, but the glock is lighter and more reliable. that 23 does have a nasty kick. If you intend on shooting it a lot, as you should, the 19 is much easier to master. DVC

[GlockN'Roll]

Well there are several factors to consider.

If your EDC is a CCW weapon,

Then you need to think about many factors.

Width or breadth is an extremely important factor in a CCW weapon

. Length and height are factors - but I believe secondary to width.

I have carried CCW for over 40 years. I can carry a full sized 1911 with no print.


A Glock is somewhat more problematic because of width - width equals print.

Glock = Block.

Don't get me wrong they are great and fun weapons to shoot.

But not the best to conceal (too wide).

Good holsters - good belts - and oversized clothing are the key! IWB are the best for CCW - They are also the most uncomfortable. Choices only you can make.

All of that being stated. If you want to CCW and not print - buy the Kimber and your jacket should be one size larger that normal

Actually, at 1.28" the Kimber wider than the glock which is only 1.18"...

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pro-carry-tt

https://us.glock.com/products/model/g23

I have carried the Glock G21, G30, G26 and G43 and the 1911 is harder to conceal than all of them...

I love 1911's but they are not easier to carry than a Glock...


Also, the P2000k is wider as well:

http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/p2000-sk/

[DragonDJ11]

The width isn't a problem for me. I have worn my full sized 1911 and an XD 40 IWB and everything conceals except the very end of the butt of the gun. That is where the slightly shorter handle is going to come into play.

[GlockN'Roll]

The width isn't a problem for me.

I have worn my full sized 1911 and an XD 40 IWB and everything conceals except the very end of the butt of the gun.

That is where the slightly shorter handle is going to come into play.

If you are comfortable with the width of your options and only the grip (handle) length is the concern,

look at the various compacts version of the pistols you are considering as in California you can only carry 10 round mags max.

They have substantially shorter grips in most cases....

Have you looked at the 45 Shield?

Also, as others have mentioned consistent manual of arms is important for carry.

If you plan on switching between more than one pistol, consistent operation will reduce stress and potential confusion if you need to actually draw your weapon...

What ever you get, train with it.