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  • #76
    lawj11
    Banned
    • Jan 2017
    • 323

    Originally posted by wordupmybrotha
    Can't believe you spray that foul smelling Ballistol in your apartment. There are many pleasant smelling and effective CLP such as Slip 2000, Weapon Shield, Froglube.

    And with a crawling baby, I wouldn't clean my guns on the floor.
    I would also wear gloves and wash my hands with D-lead soap. Here are links to them.

    https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1018285
    LOL, I've only cleaned in my apartment once (usually wait till nobody is around and go out in front of my door with everything hidden in a box LOL) and it was on a desk not on the floor. I do use D-Lead on my face and hands after shooting and wear gloves while cleaning. Thank you for the list of less foul smelling cleaners, I'll have to check them out.

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    • #77
      Wordupmybrotha
      From anotha motha
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2013
      • 6965

      Originally posted by lawj11
      LOL, I've only cleaned in my apartment once (usually wait till nobody is around and go out in front of my door with everything hidden in a box LOL) and it was on a desk not on the floor. I do use D-Lead on my face and hands after shooting and wear gloves while cleaning. Thank you for the list of less foul smelling cleaners, I'll have to check them out.
      Ballistol works great, but that stench gave me smelly boogers for months. And my trunk stank for weeks just from transporting a pistol cleaned with it.

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      • #78
        lawj11
        Banned
        • Jan 2017
        • 323

        Originally posted by wordupmybrotha
        Ballistol works great, but that stench gave me smelly boogers for months. And my trunk stank for weeks just from transporting a pistol cleaned with it.
        LOL, it does stink, but I think it is non-toxic. Jest smells like its toxic.

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        • #79
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12907

          Common sense precautions as said above.. Wash hands after shooting leave shoes worn at a indoor range outside.

          But if you are really interested in your child's safety, never transport them in your car....Because they stand about a 1,000 more percent of a chance of permanent injury due to a car accident, than they do because of lead exposure from you shooting occasionally.
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #80
            johnthomas
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2009
            • 7001

            Originally posted by lawj11
            Troll post? I am looking for help, because it concerns me and there is so much information on the web that I don't know what to believe. Here is an example of an article: http://projects.seattletimes.com/201...d-with-lead/1/
            OP, understand, this is the internet, lots of jerks here as any other site on the web. You are expressing a concern for you child, nothing wrong with that. Don't take the jerks serious. I have been shooting for years as has my son. My grand has gone a couple of times.

            Here is a link that may answer many of your questions and concerns.
            By the way, being a good dad and doing everything you can do to protect your family is a good thing. Keep up the good work.

            I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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            • #81
              Sapperforward
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 2928

              Originally posted by johnthomas
              OP, understand, this is the internet, lots of jerks here as any other site on the web. You are expressing a concern for you child, nothing wrong with that. Don't take the jerks serious. I have been shooting for years as has my son. My grand has gone a couple of times.

              Here is a link that may answer many of your questions and concerns.
              By the way, being a good dad and doing everything you can do to protect your family is a good thing. Keep up the good work.

              http://dfuse.us/lead.html
              A "basket of jerks"?

              Sent from my secret bunker using Tapatalk

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              • #82
                lawj11
                Banned
                • Jan 2017
                • 323

                Originally posted by johnthomas
                OP, understand, this is the internet, lots of jerks here as any other site on the web. You are expressing a concern for you child, nothing wrong with that. Don't take the jerks serious. I have been shooting for years as has my son. My grand has gone a couple of times.

                Here is a link that may answer many of your questions and concerns.
                By the way, being a good dad and doing everything you can do to protect your family is a good thing. Keep up the good work.

                http://dfuse.us/lead.html
                This is the best write up I've seen on the subject, thank you for sharing. The only thing is that the author claims that pure lead vaporized from the base of FMJ bullets is worse then inhaling lead styphnate found in primers. I though it was the opposite since elemental lead is not soluble and the lead styphnate primer is? Regardless, very good write up and great research. The guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

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                • #83
                  depthcharge
                  Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 175

                  Been in med field for awhile. Most of the time NEOs receive their lead test. I was concerned also but both my kids test negative. Negative as low lead exposure. Ignore these "youre a troll" post. Calguns has been a bit more low moral instead of the helpful community we were lead to believe like fighting amongst themselves.... ect. in healthcare, there is the threshold on lead exposure. Do your research. Most household products contain lead even if is not labeled.

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                  • #84
                    bronco75a
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 659

                    Originally posted by lawj11
                    I'm only in my early thirties, but when I was a kid I use to shoot lead pellets in my father's backyard all day long. I never washed my hands after handling them and before eating. Never gave it a second thought and I don't think I knew anyone (child of parent) that would have.
                    And now you're so concerned. Try to at least be consistent.

                    I guess I'm one of the aforementioned jerks because I still think he's being an over protective, helicopter parent.

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                    • #85
                      lawj11
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 323

                      Originally posted by bronco75a
                      And now you're so concerned. Try to at least be consistent.

                      I guess I'm one of the aforementioned jerks because I still think he's being an over protective, helicopter parent.
                      Be consistent? You want me to be consistent with my 10 year old self of 20 years ago? LOL, ok dude. I didn't know any better back then. I used to also not wear my seat belt back in the day until it was made a law in CA. Do you remember when nobody believed cigarettes caused lung cancer? Maybe I should stay consistent with the past and ignore all advancements in science and human knowledge. Wait, that'd make me more like you.

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                      • #86
                        lawj11
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 323

                        Originally posted by depthcharge
                        Been in med field for awhile. Most of the time NEOs receive their lead test. I was concerned also but both my kids test negative. Negative as low lead exposure. Ignore these "youre a troll" post. Calguns has been a bit more low moral instead of the helpful community we were lead to believe like fighting amongst themselves.... ect. in healthcare, there is the threshold on lead exposure. Do your research. Most household products contain lead even if is not labeled.
                        Thanks, man. Definitely going to have my kid tested so I can confirm that the precautions I take are effective. What does NEO mean?

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                        • #87
                          lawj11
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 323

                          Originally posted by lawj11
                          This is the best write up I've seen on the subject, thank you for sharing. The only thing is that the author claims that pure lead vaporized from the base of FMJ bullets is worse then inhaling lead styphnate found in primers. I though it was the opposite since elemental lead is not soluble and the lead styphnate primer is? Regardless, very good write up and great research. The guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
                          I stand corrected! Elemental lead is "Insoluble in water but dissolves slowly in water containing a weak acid; soluble in dilute nitric acid." Looks like the author of this article is correct, since our stomach is slightly acidic element lead would be soluble in that environment. I researched the properties of lead styphnate and the compound is insoluble in most organic solutions.

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                          • #88
                            Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by lawj11
                            Wait are you being serious? Isn't ethanol the alcohol that we drink? LOL
                            Yup!

                            Ethyl alcohol with a twist of lime
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • #89
                              lawj11
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 323

                              Originally posted by Cokebottle
                              Yup!

                              Ethyl alcohol with a twist of lime
                              LOL

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                              • #90
                                TKM
                                Onward through the fog!
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 10657

                                I've had lead poisoning. I also didn't have weird helicopter parents.
                                It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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