Froglube isn't great on moving parts but as a rust preventative it's possibly the best stuff around, especially for knives. I'll stick to hoppes on my guns but I froglube my homemade knives.
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Digs up a month and a half old frog lube thread and questions whether or not it actually caused any malfunctions, fails to read the first post in the thread where it very specifically states that it gummed up and made a firearm useless. Apparently "gummed up and useless" isn't descriptive enough to understand whether or not a firearm is functional?Has Froglube actually caused a malfunction in any of the above? I'm not sure what "gummed up" means. Froglube solidifies when cold and then slicks up when it gets hot. So maybe you don't like how it looks after you take your safe queen out of storage but that doesn't mean the product doesn't work.
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Yes, yes, yes, but did it malfunction?
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I stopped using froglube a long time ago, due to several malfunctions in a few guns.
Yes, I applied properly. But, after using the gun, it heats up, and the froglube will run into places it doesn't belong. Then, the gun cools down, and after a period of time, gunk. Also, froglube seems to affect guns with tighter tolerances more than those with looser tolerances- i.e., worked fine on an AK.
Another thing to note: When I got it, I did the application process to some knives. One of them was a swiss army knife that subsequently sat in a drawer all this time (couple of years). A few weeks ago, I took it out and sure enough, the thing was stuck. Extremely difficult to open some of the blades. Wound up spraying it out with Brake Cleaner, then relubing with mineral oil, and all is fine.
No thanks. I don't need to be haunted by the spectre of stuck/non-functioning guns and knives.Comment
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It gummed up enough that I was getting light strikes/no ignition with my Beretta .25, no ejection with my .22 conversion on the Beretta 92S, difficult cylinder rotation on my BP revolver and .38 Smith&Wesson, ..... Many people said it's probably because I over applied it, I can't argue with that, I probably did.Has Froglube actually caused a malfunction in any of the above? I'm not sure what "gummed up" means. Froglube solidifies when cold and then slicks up when it gets hot. So maybe you don't like how it looks after you take your safe queen out of storage but that doesn't mean the product doesn't work.
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It did initially make the guns feel super slick and I was instantly in love, problems came a few weeks later. I call Frog and the guy said it was probably interaction with petroleum products, even tho I degreased & sonic cleaned first. He convinced me to buy their cleaner and I got suckered. That stuff is worthless, feels like water with maybe a little soap in it and it didn't even remove the FrogLube without scrubbing and pretty useless on fowling too. So after another thorough cleaning with their cleaner the one gun I decided to test with Froglube still gummed up so I've now removed that ****.
My new favorite as far as feel goes is Hornady OneShot gun cleaner & lube. About a week after application I went shooting, all went well. Now a couple weeks after that trip they still feel good, not as super slick as when I first put it on, but at least as good as they did with any of the other oils I've used. I had little faith in the OneShot as far as protection since it doesn't leave an obvious film like oil does till I saw a test a guy did on youtube. About 40 products tested and the oneshot came in 2nd or 3rd I think. In friction tests it was also very high, possibly #1 but don't recall. Oneshot doesn't make guns feel slippery to the hand even if sprayed all over, but metal to metal is super slick. With nitrile gloves on the parts do feel slippery and I was a little worried as I was reassembling parts, but once de-gloved they feel as grippy as a dry gun.
Of course my feel of the guns' actions can't be quantified, but here's an example that can be conveyed. My Colt AR's bolt: the test for rings is that you stand the carrier up on the bolt and the rings should be tight enough that it doesn't compress under it's weight. My bolt passed that test dry and with 7 different gun lubes as well as synthetic ATF & 2 synthetic motor oils, there was no obvious difference between any of the oils. With the oneshot on it it compressed, it softly slid from fully extended almost all the way to compressed, just a last 1/16" inch or so from fully compressed. After storage it still did that, after shooting a couple weeks ago I just checked and it doesn't compress, but still feels smooth. I broke down the BCG and all the carbon wiped off with a dry shop rag so I gave everything a light sprits of the oneshot to re-lube. The parts look and feel pretty dry to the touch but the action slides like it's wet.
The other lube I tested this time around was Archoil LP4400 applied to my Beretta 92S. After shooting it still feels smooth as silk, but it's a 92 so that's pretty much to be expected with almost any lube. I won't definitively state that it's slicker than with than other oils I've used, but seems to be.Comment
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Last month Andrew Tuohy published a blog post comparing FrogLube with two other lubricants TrackLube+ (a rollercoaster lubricant) and Seal1, another gun lube.He commissioned a infrared spectroscopy analysis of the three lubes and found they were virtually identical chemically, despite being different in color and smell.Meanwhile Schnips at North Eastern Shooters was also investigating Floglube.He asked his brother, a Chemistry PhD student at UConn, to run at IR Spectrometer over Froglube and compare it to other oils.
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Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.
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Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.
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People drone on about all sorts of magical gun oils, but as far as I've seen, Rem Oil and Breakfree CLP never fail.
I'm a Breakfree CLP guy over Rem Oil. Never any rust, good lube. Hoppes Elite and a toothbrush seem to make for the best cleaner.
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Thanks calif 15-22. I had a good laugh when I saw that.
But seriously, I remember when froglube first came out, and there was this Amway/MLM/snake-oil salesman type guy pimping it here on CalGuns. I argued with that guy a bunch of times. But most everybody was on his side. I was the dumb old disbeliever.
I use "old" oils and solvents - Outers, Hoppes, Rem Oil, and even that new fan-dangled Breakfree CLP on occasion.
But I love the smell of Outers. Takes me back.
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But seriously, I remember when froglube first came out, and there was this Amway/MLM/snake-oil salesman type guy pimping it here on CalGuns. I argued with that guy a bunch of times. But most everybody was on his side. I was the dumb old disbeliever.
I use "old" oils and solvents - Outers, Hoppes, Rem Oil, and even that new fan-dangled Breakfree CLP on occasion.
But I love the smell of Outers. Takes me back.
I got banned because of that thread.
.Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.
In the United States a person's expertise on a subject is inversely proportional to their knowledge of the subject: The less they know about something, the more they become an expert on it.
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