Another one leaves CA

[Justinoff]

Another one leaves CA

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[Justinoff]

Kind of old news as they left about 6 or 7 months ago. Happy to see they are doing well, my M&P 9 is a much better gun thanks to them.

Agreed. I have Apex in a full size M&P and a Shield. It kinda feels like S&W ****ty stock trigger was a jackpot for Apex.

Good on them


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[Jimi Jah]

I'd rather see gun makers stay here to fight the good fight. That's why I bought JD Machine and Franklin Armory. That's why I use Slip 2000.

[Mitch]

It would appear as if the people who actually track this stuff would disagree. 2012-2014 saw a loss of 2300 jobs in the state of CA. People don't realize CA is the second largest firearms economy in the US. Add DoD contracts and we are the biggest.

No, they don't disagree. The poorer paid are leaving California while the state sucks in high-paid tech and other professionals:

http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/03/04/58222/why-poorer-uneducated-people-are-leaving-californi/

But while lower-income people leave, there’s been a net increase of 52,700 residents making over $50,000 a year who have a bachelor's degree.

No one cares. Liberal elitists pretend they care about the middle and lower classes, but they are happy to see them go. Improves property values, ya know, and tax revenues. And you know the most important thing is to pay for state employee pensions. The most important.

[Mitch]

I'd rather see gun makers stay here to fight the good fight. That's why I bought JD Machine and Franklin Armory. That's why I use Slip 2000.

Franklin Armory relocated to Nevada like we did.

[beanz2]

No one cares about the California firearms businesses, or any small manufacturers, moving out of state, except in some cases the new host communities. When we moved our little five-man company to Reno it was announced on the local teevee news and people started showing up to check us out while we were still unpacking.

...Don't even like going back to SoCal for a visit anymore (which I still have to do to see my mother).

Hello, neighbor!

Sure hope, though, that this Californian refugee crisis does not make NV much bluer. Washoe and Clark counties gave Hillary the Nevada win. Of course having a lot of Nevadans throwing away their votes for the Johnson-Weld ticket had something to do with that too.

I avoid big CA cities if I can help it also. The rudeness and apathy in major metropolitan areas is very palpable.

I don't think they need to be firearms related. In california, you automatically have reason to move if you own a business

True. That or pull a Mark Zuckerburg move, contribute heavily to the Dem campaign fund and get nice tax breaks.

[sigstroker]

It would appear as if the people who actually track this stuff would disagree. 2012-2014 saw a loss of 2300 jobs in the state of CA. People don't realize CA is the second largest firearms economy in the US. Add DoD contracts and we are the biggest.

http://www.nssf.org/PDF/2012EconomicImpactReport.pdf

California also lost a lot of newly created jobs that don't show up in the stats. Many chip and electronic fabs for Intel, etc were built in other states because of oppressive regulation in Cali. It's especially stupid wrt "global warming" regs because the plants get built anyway and the globe isn't any less warmed because the plants are in TX, OR, or AZ than if they were in CA.

[Jimmy's]

I don't think they need to be firearms related. In california, you automatically have reason to move if you own a business

Or just want to live a Better life.

[user120312]

Sounds about right. I watched a lot of the big figures in fabrication and machine work leave the state when I was younger, now it's the niche people.

Don't know these folks but, if they owned their place in Los Osos, they could easily cover the cost of the new facility with some left over for CNC equipment from what the old place would sell for. It's breathtaking. I watched things hit the stratosphere in Morro Bay and Los Osos over nearly 40 years of fishing and camping over there. Still kicking myself for not buying into the area when it was cheaper.

Anyway, the products will still be available and they'll continue to innovate. Good on them. Good for AZ.

[RobG]

Good for them, this says it all...

“Getting out from under the restrictive and frankly punitive regulatory environment of California allows us to expand our R&D efforts as we continue to bring new products to market,” explained Folk. “The move is not only good for Apex but also our employees.”

California is consistently ranked as one of the worst states in which to run a business. By relocating to Arizona, Apex Tactical Specialties is not only able to reduce many operating costs for the business, but also expand opportunities for employees. In Peoria, Arizona the consumer prices are 18.03% lower than in San Luis Obispo, California. Rent prices are 40.20% lower and local purchasing power is 76.24% higher.

[OlderThanDirt]

Sounds about right. I watched a lot of the big figures in fabrication and machine work leave the state when I was younger, now it's the niche people.

Don't know these folks but, if they owned their place in Los Osos, they could easily cover the cost of the new facility with some left over for CNC equipment from what the old place would sell for. It's breathtaking. I watched things hit the stratosphere in Morro Bay and Los Osos over nearly 40 years of fishing and camping over there. Still kicking myself for not buying into the area when it was cheaper.

Anyway, the products will still be available and they'll continue to innovate. Good on them. Good for AZ.

They did not own the property and relocating to a larger facility in the area would have been very expensive. In a competitive national marketplace being based in coastal California is a real cost disadvantage that most companies cannot overcome. Real estate, labor and compliance costs eat up most companies that produce relatively inexpensive products.

[user120312]

In a sense, leasing worked; easy to leave, no phase 1 to deal with, load up and done. I remember going from 500 to 2500 and it was like heaven on earth, not to mention gaining cranes to save my body. I can imagine how they feel in AZ with all that space, offices, big parking lot, the works. Good to grow. Hope they do well.

[$nake-Eye$]

They were in Los Osos? I missed out on visiting the mothership....

[The Gleam]

Expanding from 6,000 sq ft to 50,000 sq ft? They must be doing very well.

Or, they are just getting a lot more for their money there; I've already priced it out that if I sell my home in CA and move to NV, not only will I be able to buy a home 3 times large than what I won now with 8 times more the land, but I'll STILL have a few hundred thousand left to do as I please.

[Jimi Jah]

Franklin Armory relocated to Nevada like we did.

Which is why I only have one Morgan Hill lower. I do have a few JD Machine's here. There is something about an LEO seeing "California made" on my evil rifle I like.