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  • glockman19
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 10486

    Would you buy this?

    I'm looking to manufacture or gain permission to sell the SE-2 & SA-4 magazine couplers.

    In response the upcoming magazine restrictions...

    Would you buy one? or more?

    The SA-4







    IF I can get enough pre-orders, I'll have it made out of aircraft aluminum in both 2 & 4 magazine capacity and sold for $25 or less for 4 mag and $15 for the 2 mag.
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  • #2
    Bainter1212
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2013
    • 5936

    I would buy a couple, as long as they are sturdy and could handle being dropped.

    Especially now that I am about to lose all my 30s in a tragic boating accident

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    • #3
      damon1272
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 4857

      Nice concept. If reasonably priced as you stated then yes I would buy a couple of 2 mag couplers.

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      • #4
        billyremo
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 97

        Great idea!

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        • #5
          Wildhawk66
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2006
          • 3608

          So, at what point do multiple magazines joined together become one ammunition feeding device?

          Years ago the consensus around here was that this type of mag coupler was likely not legal in CA. Has anything changed that would imply that this concept would be more defensible today?

          One thing I can personally think of in the pro change category is the general acceptance of the Keltec KSG. The face that there are two integral tube mags attached to the weapon doesn't seem to be an issue because the mags have to be manually switched between. Maybe this would be looked at similarly today?

          On the other hand, this item replaces the floorplates on each mag which means the four mags are no longer functional as stand alone items... If there isn't new law or case law that addresses these, who wants to be the test case?
          Last edited by Wildhawk66; 12-10-2016, 4:37 PM.

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          • #6
            bronco75a
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 659

            It's not one magazine feeding device if you have to manually remove the first magazine to flip over and then insert the other magazine coupled to it. They sell magazine couplers at guns stores in California.

            I get your other concern but it seems too many people think too much into these things. As long as no more than 10 rounds can be fed at one time before you have to switch to the other magazine I see no problem.

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            • #7
              Bainter1212
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2013
              • 5936

              The 10/22 mag couplers have been sold here for quite some time.
              I fail to see the distinction....these should be legal.





              Until the legislature realizes they exist.

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              • #8
                Wildhawk66
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2006
                • 3608

                There are lots of things that are legal to own but illegal to use currently for sale in CA. Tannerite is a good example of something some local gun stores still sell that is illegal to use in CA.

                The statement that it is not one feeding device if you have to flip it is based on what exactly? Can that statement be defended in court?

                When you flip it are you flipping one item, or five separate items at the same time? To me, the fact that when everything is connected together none of the previously separate feeding devices can function without being connected to the other four makes this one device. This is fundamentally different than two independent magazines that are simply taped, glues, or otherwise stuck together like most of the other couplers floating around.

                At this point in time CA is cracking down on magazines that exceed 10 rounds. In the absence of any law or case law that addresses whether or not this is legal or not, this is an interesting time to be wandering around in this particular legal grey area.

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                • #9
                  Wildhawk66
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 3608

                  I want to add too, that this looks like a really nice product. If in fact this particular design is legal I would be interested in owning one.

                  With everything going on though with regard to 10+ magazines, I think we should all be reevaluating things, especially those things that may be pushing the envelope, to make sure we stay clear of any legal trouble.

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                  • #10
                    bronco75a
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 659

                    [QUOTE=Wildhawk66;19305811]

                    The statement that it is not one feeding device if you have to flip it is based on what exactly?

                    Common sense.

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                    • #11
                      Wildhawk66
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 3608

                      Originally posted by bronco75a

                      The statement that it is not one feeding device if you have to flip it is based on what exactly?

                      Common sense.
                      If only that were the basis for the laws in CA, especially the firearms laws. Since it's not...
                      Last edited by Wildhawk66; 12-11-2016, 8:37 AM.

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                      • #12
                        JMP
                        Internet Warrior
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 17056

                        As long as it is a legal, I like it. I think it's a good idea.

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                        • #13
                          bounty1
                          Banned
                          • May 2014
                          • 496

                          maybe...

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                          • #14
                            Jimmy's
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 2600

                            No.

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                            • #15
                              jarhead714
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 9054

                              Hell no, and not because of any fears of illegality.

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