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  • badicedog
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3157

    problems w/ FFL M24armorer

    Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

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  • #2
    jksupplyco
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1623

    One word. Obama

    Delays in the industy really aren't uncommon. Even on orders placed prior to the election. Manufacturers are swamped with orders, and individual dealers have a difficult time getting them to commit to any time frames. If its any solace, you aren't alone. There are ALOT of people out there waiting.. Be kind to your FFL, I'm sure he is doing everything he can for you.. Its just the nature of the current market. "If" we can get info from the manufacturers, we try to relay that along to the customer, but given the situation, you almost have to take it with a grain of salt. I wish there was a better answer, but be patient. If you want to bail out, I'm sure you can work it out amicably with your Dealer, especially if your lower has not been received and engraved. There is a long line of folks ready to take your place in line.

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    • #3
      megavolt121
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 1561

      Originally posted by badicedog
      Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

      Have you tried asking him to cancel the order and refund you the money?

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      • #4
        Vin496
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 8804

        Originally posted by badicedog
        Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

        You ordered a custom engraved piece and are upset that you have been waiting 3 months?

        You are aware that every gun item is pretty much back logged months right now.

        Welcome to the gun world, it is what it is. Almost any custom piece will be quoted a time that almost always turns out to be a a 3rd of the actual time it takes to get.
        I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

        and

        If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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        • #5
          m24armorer
          In Memoriam
          • Feb 2006
          • 1422

          I would be glad to send you a refund. It's busy enough without being flamed and I'm having a hard time keeping up with demand.

          Not to mention all the calls I'm getting from someones posts on another board.
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          • #6
            Beatone
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 4053

            Originally posted by jksupplyco
            One word. Obama

            Delays in the industy really aren't uncommon. Even on orders placed prior to the election. Manufacturers are swamped with orders, and individual dealers have a difficult time getting them to commit to any time frames. If its any solace, you aren't alone. There are ALOT of people out there waiting.. Be kind to your FFL, I'm sure he is doing everything he can for you.. Its just the nature of the current market. "If" we can get info from the manufacturers, we try to relay that along to the customer, but given the situation, you almost have to take it with a grain of salt. I wish there was a better answer, but be patient. If you want to bail out, I'm sure you can work it out amicably with your Dealer, especially if your lower has not been received and engraved. There is a long line of folks ready to take your place in line.
            The above quote is true. It may take some time as it is custom and the current situation of people buying so much at one time.. I just talked (called on other business)to John and he will be looking at this thread to see what the problem is. He's really one of the best armorers out there and a real good guy. Things currently take more time.
            Last edited by Beatone; 01-27-2009, 10:04 AM.
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            • #7
              Dirtbiker
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 2810

              Originally posted by badicedog
              Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

              You're kidding right?? Unless it was Oct 2007.

              If I were you I'd get a refund and then sell every gun I owned.
              To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

              Thomas Jefferson

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              • #8
                sorensen440
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2007
                • 8612

                Originally posted by badicedog
                Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

                Did you even try to contact him before taking this public ?
                "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  aplinker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 16762

                  Originally posted by sorensen440
                  Did you even try to contact him before taking this public ?
                  +1

                  Seems a bit overboard to post.

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                  • #10
                    USN CHIEF
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11540

                    Originally posted by Dirtbiker

                    If I were you I'd get a refund and then sell every gun I owned.
                    +1

                    Yeah, no kidding, did you try to contact m24armorer before you flamed him here? Was it you that flamed him also in another forum? You just don't go online and start flaming FFL's without doing your homework my friend. It gets you bad reputation.
                    Originally posted by tankerman
                    I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
                    Originally posted by Douglas711
                    Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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                    • #11
                      Technical Ted
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12169

                      Quick, cheap or good.

                      Pick two,
                      Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
                      That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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                      • #12
                        ohsmily
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 8997

                        Originally posted by badicedog
                        Hi guys, I have a proplem with a FFL. I've ordered a custom engraved lower back in October. Yes! October!!! since then, I've gotten every single excuse why my lower has not shipped. I need some advice on how to proceed to either getting my lower or my money refunded. Any and all suggestions will be very much appreciated.

                        Did you even bother to ask if he would refund your money? If not, why the hell are you asking us to tell you how to do it when it seems that all it will take is a simple phone call.

                        Compliments to M24Armorer for posting this thread.


                        I noticed that you had some negative iTrader feedback...methinks this is indicative of a trend here.
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                        • #13
                          domokun
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3525

                          Originally posted by Technical Ted
                          Quick, cheap or good.

                          Pick two,
                          +1 to the above. M24armorer's work is top notch. If you're expecting quick turnaround in this current political environment then look elsewhere. Personally, I'm willing to wait to get my stuff worked on by him for the quality work he performs on my stuff.
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                          • #14
                            m24armorer
                            In Memoriam
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1422

                            Sorry, I know some of this stuff has taken a lot longer than it should have. Most of my orders have been shipped but I'm still a bit behind.

                            No one yet has ever asked for a refund. On that note I'll be happy to refund anyone who asks.

                            Considering the pre and post Obama prices, I may become something other than a non profit
                            07 Class II in the Bay area.
                            Enjoy the silence.......
                            sigpic
                            Celebrating our madness for over
                            50 years.


                            Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                            - George Patton

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                            • #15
                              tankerman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 24240

                              Custom anything takes a year or more.

                              Your's sound semi-custom.

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