Firearms Paranoia - In the Work Place

[CSACANNONEER]

You need to make an order from Pen Island dot net. Please do not confuse it with dot com.

[BeFrank]

If they come up with a new policy that forbids any reference to firearms or bullets I would revisit your mention of "Bullet Points" and also references to "targeted", "Aim/ aimed", "Scope" and "Primer/ primed" in company policy.

[CSACANNONEER]

If they come up with a new policy that forbids any reference to firearms or bullets I would revisit your mention of "Bullet Points" and also references to "targeted", "Aim/ aimed", "Scope" and "Primer/ primed" in company policy.

That could trigger a problem with their stocks. They might be forced to set their sites on reviewing the whole nine yards of their company policies. I wonder if they would crown him or try to muzzle him?

[olddirtygerm]

I have ammo delivered all the time to my office. Never from anywhere obvious sounding like bullets.com. The only comment I get from shipping is how heavy the box is.

[iLWRC]

Most companies won't let employees ship/receive personal packages.

I'm director for a logistics company and the company I work for has zero tolerance for any inbound/outbound employee packages. Being that were a company of 1100+ I've had to terminate employees who've had personal mail outbound. The smallest occurrence was a birthday card and another was thousands of dollars of iPhones.

[Lucky Scott]

As the owner of a company, if my employees "pushed the envelope" with company policy, they would probably be terminated in a company downsizing.
Of course, nothing related to the actual issue. Just business as usual.

Please keep in mind I am pro gun and this has nothing to do with the gun issue, just an employee causing "issues". I hate Issues.

Having said that, a PO box can be as cheap as $100.00 bucks a year......

[OutlawStar]

After working as a shipping/receiving person at 2 locations, I can say both were fine with receiving personal shipments for convenience as a fringe benefit of having a full time shipping/receiving person.

The second place I worked at was highly liberal, in a very blue state. Part of my job description was opening packages, regardless of who or what it was, to check for bombs or anthrax (seriously). Since the employees knew me, they knew I wasn't going to flag anything short of something illegal, and I kept things discreet. (Nothing like having to deliver adult toys to middle aged women's offices without being completely red faced).

Well turns out after someone kinda blabbing how discreet I was and not caring what the content of personal shipments, HR performed an audit of non-work related vendors, and found some people were slightly abusing the policy due to volume and unrelated to work-appropriate items. HR changed the policy in under a week and stopped any and all personal deliveries. Managers still did it because they knew me, and they would usually keep it semi-work related to avoid any flak.

Moral of the story: don't mess with HR. They can change the rules if they want to to say nothing firearm related, not even so much as a barrel wrench. And don't abuse fringe benefits like that to keep them for everyone in the office.

[pointerman]

My company is the same as the OP as far as package receipts go. Heck, they even let us ship out personal packages using corporate rates and we can write a check for the fees. They understand that the easier they make it for us to work here the more likely we are to be excellent employees, work longer and in general contribute to a positive work environment. Great place to work.

[FourT6and2]

I'm a freelancer. When I'm on contract, I'm pretty much a full-time employee. I go to the office, I sit at a desk, etc. I was working a contract last year for about 6 months. And it was my last week. The day before my last day, I get an email to my personal account that read, "Don't bother coming into work tomorrow. Take the day off. We'll pay you regardless." That was strange, I thought. But whatever. I found out through a co-worker who I hang out with outside of work that everybody else in the company (500+ people) got an email to their work accounts that day that said, "There is a security threat to the building. Do not come into work tomorrow. Police will be on-seen."

Turns out I was the security threat haha!

I had read an online article on my work computer about recent gun laws or something. The article was on CNN.com or the NYT or something. And the article had a photo of gun in it. You know the kind—a stock photo to go along with the piece. Well a coworker saw me reading the article and reported it. Said I was "researching guns."

That was a few weeks before my last day.

So they thought I was going to shoot up the place on my last day. But instead of doing anything about it, they simply waited until the day before my last day and told me not to come into work. They literally closed down the entire building, which consisted of like 5 businesses and over 500 people. All because I read a news article that had a photo of a gun in it.

Meanwhile, when you walk into the building this place has a TV that plays non-stop violent movies on repeat. And there are posters in the office from video games this company has worked on. Games like Call of Duty and Counter Strike. And the posters have life-sized soldiers sporting machine guns and explosions and people getting shot. Yet... I'm the bad guy for reading news article.

Ridiculous.

So no... I would NEVER have anything gun-related delivered to me at work.

[larkja]

If you really need to order a bunch of stuff, might be worth it to rent a monthly P.O. box. Not that I agree with it, but I can understand the company's paranoia. Take this scenario: Normal dude ordering reloading stuff (not "ammo"). Dude is at home making his own ammo. One day, Dude snaps, comes into work, and kills his boss, a few coworkers, then himself. An internal investigation reveals said Dude was shipping reloading supplies to the business and picking them up in S/R.

A lawsuit ensues because the victim's families believe the company was negligent in allowing the reloading supplies to be shipped and received at Dude's place of business. The company is found negligent due to California's lame judicial system and the jury wants to send a message to all businesses. The company is fined multi millions of dollars. Their insurance carrier drops them and they cannot bind coverage due to the lawsuit, or if they can, it is very expensive. And on and on the story goes...

So you see, it might not be that they're against reloading or shooting/hunting. It's probably more that they don't want to expose the company to unnecessary risk or liability.

[Metal Fiend]

Damn, that sounds like a hassle, luckily I work for a small company that's PRO 2A.

[myk]

This is not a concern.

Then what was the point of making this thread? Just to point out how your job doesn't think like you do? Not everyone is pro-gun and that is their right. YOU work for THEM and as long as they PAY YOU they can act however they want to, say whatever they want, set whatever policies they want to, whether you like it or not. If that's not good enough for you, then apply at Turner's or Riflegear.com; they're hiring right now and you won't even have to ship your ammo....

[Powder_Keg]

OP, it sounds like you already have your mind made up. If getting fired isn't a big deal, I say keep pissing HR off and keep us posted on how this turns out.

[Marauder2003]

Do FedEx and UPS deliver to USPS PO boxes? I know they will deliver to a Mailboxes, Etc type office.

[smoothy8500]

I was really upset when my boss said I couldn't have my exotic Swedish porn sent to the mailroom...oh, wait, wrong forum.