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  • Phil3
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2249

    Firearms Paranoia - In the Work Place

    Before having weapons stuff delivered to my work place (to avoid porch pirates at my residence), I checked our company policy and our parent company policy for firearms related restrictions. Only thing was no weapons on company property. Nothing at all on ammo, or reloading components.

    So I ordered some bullets, a reloading manual, and a go-gauge...from bullets.com. The supplier name caught the attention of Shipping/Receiving (S/R), but they delivered it all, and I explained it was a book and tools, and no ammo. Back-ordered bullets arrived a month or so later, I picked those up when notified, but later got a call from the Facilities people (who manage S/R). I was told the shipment caused concern, and it was reported to Human Resources (HR). They escalated to the director of HR, who then contacted HR at the parent company. After all that, it was determined no policy was violated, but that a new policy would be written to address "it".

    I explained it was not ammo, which is not even prohibited. I also, much less the copper clad lead projectiles that I ordered. I was told by Facilities it would be advisable not to bring such things onto company property.

    Good grief, these people were peeing in their pants over a box of lead! I am going to order other stuff from bullets.com (not ammo stuff), just to see if they go into panic hand-wringing mode because they see the supplier "bullets.com". What next, the banning of the term "bullet points" in my Powerpoint or Word documents? I already bring my 50 cal bullet pen to meetings, refusing to comply with liberal pansies. A few exclaimed "cool pen", but most just ignore it, or look at it with obvious concern. I work in Silicon Valley, a liberal mecca.

    Phil
  • #2
    Mitch
    Mostly Harmless
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 6574

    We are from HR, we are here to help.
    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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    • #3
      JPZ
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 118

      Unless you are the one directly receiving and signing for packages i wouldn't even consider it...

      Plus many places wont ship to an address that doesn't match your billing address.

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      • #4
        DesertDave100
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 547

        Nearly every place I ever worked didn't allow personal deliveries to the workplace, period. A couple smaller places did allow it, and there were a few E-bay types who really abused the policy.

        I feel your pain. When I was working so many hours that I only saw my home in daylight on the weekends, ordering things to be delivered was basically my only shopping option. I was often frustrated by the need for signature on delivery, and not being able to get something needed in time for the weekend, because it was in limbo between delivery attempts and on-hold at some office only accessible during 'normal business hours'.

        Thanks for the reminder of another reason retirement, though broke, is better than working.
        NRA Life Member CRPA Life Member

        Registration is the first step towards confiscation.

        I identify as Non-Bidenary

        Originally posted by Kurgan
        This is OT where we never let the facts get in the way of a salacious accusation. Especially when it includes the butt.

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        • #5
          monk
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 4454

          HR always wants strict policies that can reduce any liability. I get it.

          I know it's an extra expense but have you thought of getting a PO Box?


          NRA Member
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          A tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny.

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          • #6
            Phil3
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 2249

            Originally posted by DesertDave100
            Nearly every place I ever worked didn't allow personal deliveries to the workplace, period. A couple smaller places did allow it, and there were a few E-bay types who really abused the policy.

            I feel your pain. When I was working so many hours that I only saw my home in daylight on the weekends, ordering things to be delivered was basically my only shopping option. I was often frustrated by the need for signature on delivery, and not being able to get something needed in time for the weekend, because it was in limbo between delivery attempts and on-hold at some office only accessible during 'normal business hours'.

            Thanks for the reminder of another reason retirement, though broke, is better than working.
            We allow for unlimited personal deliveries, and they are often delivered to the office. Like you, I am frustrated with anything needing signature. On those days, I just have to take a day off until I can get a stay-at-home neighbor to receive for me. I am not sure if our S/R will sign for a personal package. Have to ask.

            Phil

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            • #7
              Jimi Jah
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2014
              • 18937

              Welcome to modern America, where people are afraid of their own shadows...

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              • #8
                Newport
                Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 202

                If it helps any, you can order from www.laxammo.com and specify an unmarked box for shipping (although it would be marked ORM-D). See the FAQ section on their website.
                NRA Life Member

                Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                Today's so called republican conservatives are far more liberal than a 1960's democrat. No way would a 1960's democrat put up with this nonsense.

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                • #9
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17604

                  Originally posted by Phil3
                  Before having weapons stuff delivered to my work place (to avoid porch pirates at my residence), I checked our company policy and our parent company policy for firearms related restrictions. Only thing was no weapons on company property. Nothing at all on ammo, or reloading components.
                  ...
                  After all that, it was determined no policy was violated, but that a new policy would be written to address "it".
                  The company handled it correctly. They didn't go after you for something that isn't in the policy, instead they are changing their policy to better match their "values," their "safety profile," possibly even insurance requirements.

                  Their company, their rules.
                  sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                  • #10
                    glockman19
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 10486

                    Be an adult.

                    Keep work and non-work life separate.

                    And for god's sake, don't have anything not work related mailed or shipped to the workplace.

                    Finally, Continuing to play games might get you a pink slip. If you like your job and the company you work for don't test the boundaries. There is already a questionable entry in your work file that may be shared with prospective future employers. Follow that up with a policy instituted specifically to deal with your actions is not good.

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                    • #11
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by glockman19
                      Be an adult.

                      Keep work and non-work life separate.

                      And for god's sake, don't have anything not work related mailed or shipped to the workplace.

                      Finally, Continuing to play games might get you a pink slip. If you like your job and the company you work for don't test the boundaries. There is already a questionable entry in your work file that may be shared with prospective future employers. Follow that up with a policy instituted specifically to deal with your actions is not good.
                      Yeah, unless the OP didn't know that bullets.com uses branded shipping boxes(I hate it when companies do this), having something from them shipped to work is just insane unless you're 100% sure that you're cool with the receiving dept.

                      As it is, he's already on HR's **** list, continuing to play games is definitely a bad idea.

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                      • #12
                        Garv the innocent
                        RSG Minion, Senior
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 9039

                        Order something from "nuclearbomb.com" or similar website and see what they do.
                        Originally posted by Kestryll:
                        It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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                        • #13
                          Lead4bfast
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 169

                          I bet HR is already monitoring your actions. I hope I'm wrong.
                          just because you're breathing, it doesn't mean you're living-life!

                          Lead4bfast=I eat lead for breakfast...

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                          • #14
                            Phil3
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2249

                            Originally posted by IVC
                            The company handled it correctly. They didn't go after you for something that isn't in the policy, instead they are changing their policy to better match their "values," their "safety profile," possibly even insurance requirements.

                            Their company, their rules.
                            If there WERE rules! Their aren't (yet). The company didn't handle it correctly. Their policy at the time did not prohibit what I ordered whatsoever, but then tells me, "...it would be advisable not to bring such things onto company property...". Really? What "things"? What policy is this? And there is still no changed policy I can find.

                            Phil

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                            • #15
                              MarikinaMan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 4864

                              the paranoia is national.

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