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  • #46
    Epaphroditus
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 4888

    Last hunter ed class they said safe storage required such.

    I asked the instructor if he had ammo in a second safe ... he said no.
    CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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    • #47
      bazineta
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2015
      • 647

      So here's the thing; if the LE you encounter is going to arrest you for something that's not illegal, then there's an infinite number of things that aren't illegal that they're going to arrest you for. Waving a copy of the PC at such an individual is likely just to get you proned out and your *** kicked before you take the ride, because you're going to take the ride anyway. Avoid a resisting entanglement and the suit you get to file afterward gets much easier.

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      • #48
        watevers1
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 808

        Originally posted by baekacaek
        Hmm so it sounds like after 25 posts the origin of this mystery remains to be solved. Really curious how it all started. Like trying to find patient zero of a virus outbreak
        funny... a buddy and i were discussing this a few days before this thread was created. we got to talking and he mentioned that he thinks a hard case is required and ammo to be kept separate for transportation, but he didn't have any idea where he got those ideas from. almost got hit with the FUD bug

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        • #49
          wpod
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 2395

          Had a gun shop employee (allegedly ex-leo) tell me this. I asked him to show me the PC.
          He didn't bother trying.
          I proceeded to ignore him and talked to another employee.

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          • #50
            drifts1
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 1443

            The only case law I'm aware of is Clark vs California. Prior to that case I think cops decided "loaded" meant whatever they wanted it to mean. Unfortunately many cops are still not aware of Clark vs California, or they are but lie to people.

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            • #51
              Cokebottle
              Señor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
              The Internet.
              Goes back much farther than that.

              I was told when I was working retail in the 80s that:

              You could carry concealed in your place of business
              When you step out onto the sidewalk it needs to be exposed
              When you get into your vehicle it needs to be unloaded and the ammo separated from the gun and the gun rendered inoperable
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #52
                CALI-gula
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2006
                • 7057

                Originally posted by baekacaek
                I hear this a lot... People saying that ammo must be stored in a separate container than the firearm. But no matter where I look, I cannot find the law that says so. So where exactly are these people getting this idea from? I mean it had to have come from somewhere, right?
                By the same people that have a separate 5-Gallon container for their weed.

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                • #53
                  CALI-gula
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 7057

                  Originally posted by MotoFahren
                  That's not true at all. I fly with my ammo and gun in the same locked container.
                  Same here, up to 11 pounds.

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                  • #54
                    NIB
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 549

                    Originally posted by Cokebottle
                    Goes back much farther than that.

                    I was told when I was working retail in the 80s that:

                    You could carry concealed in your place of business
                    When you step out onto the sidewalk it needs to be exposed
                    When you get into your vehicle it needs to be unloaded and the ammo separated from the gun and the gun rendered inoperable
                    Yes Sir! I remember folks telling my dad back in 1978 when he bought a Ruger Security Six that he had to keep the ammo in separate containers in the trunk.

                    Sure there is nothing in print that says it's illegal, but there sure are a lot of LEOs that believe so. My time is more valuable then having to argue in the back of squad car in handcuffs whether it's legal or not.

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                    • #55
                      Sailormilan2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 3466

                      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                      Years ago (60's & 70's) there was case law requiring ammo to be in a separate container. That case law was over ruled in the late 70's or early 80's.

                      Please don't ask me to quote the case citation because I'm retired and don't do that stuff any more.
                      Correct.

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                      • #56
                        Fishslayer
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 13035

                        I have no idea but my BIL is a retired Sheriff & will argue with you all day long that it's the law.

                        He'll argue with YOU. I just said "cool" and went on with my day.

                        He was so convinced (and convincing) that he actually got me to look it up just to make sure.
                        "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                        You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                        You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                        • #57
                          diverwcw
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2693

                          Why such a fuss? Err on the side of caution.
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                          • #58
                            Sharp Shooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1128

                            I had a vendor at the Big Reno Gun Show insist that ammo had to be in a separate container from the gun. I pulled up the CHP FAQ website on my phone to show him that he was wrong. He still thought he was right.

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                            • #59
                              epilepticninja
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4166

                              Originally posted by SkyHawk
                              FUD!!!! This is how crap information gets spread, by some guy saying it like he is an authority on the subject, but having no idea what he is talking about and providing no citation to back his claim.

                              https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transport...and-ammunition
                              Yep, FUD. I travel with ammo in my firearms case all the time.
                              Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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                              • #60
                                ARDude
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 2723

                                Next we will be hearing that guns and ammo must be on separate flights..
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