Why such panic on stripped lowers?

[elSquid]

However stripped lowers are not fire arms, and it would be hard to outlaw a piece of metal that can potentially be made into a Rimfire rifle just as easy as any other...

Hard? Dead easy. Stripped lowers are firearms. Pass a law saying that AR15 lowers are considered AWs. Period. End of story...until SCOTUS says otherwise.

if anyone else can provide logical information on why people should stock up on lowers, please let us know so I can buy now lol

If Clinton wins the Presidency, Dems take the Senate ( coin flip ) and the house ( unlikely, but not impossible in this crazy election year ) then guaranteed permanent federal AWB next year.

If Clinton wins, Dems take the senate but not the house, expect panic buying and lack of inventory for the next year or two.[1] Dems would have another crack at house in 2018 and again, if they win and retain senate, guaranteed AWB in 2019.

Lowers mean options, and if a federal AWB does come to pass "pre-ban" lowers will be useful things to own, especially for those of us planning on eventually moving out of CA to a free state.

Lowers are cheap, options are good. YMMV.

-- Michael

[1] Actually, if Clinton wins expect panic buying regardless of what happens in the house or senate.

[xxINKxx]

I still see lowers panic is not in full swing yet. Aids gun shop in Orange still had a lot of them a few days ago.

Probably because its not a well known store for many people. Or known for black rifle stuff. And on top of it that place blows. They deny people from PPTs and send you away. That place blows

[HardwoodRods]

All of you who are putting your eggs in the featureless basket might want to wait and see what happens when the legislature goes back in session Aug 1. The year ain't over yet since we have the wonderful "Gut and Amend"

[GOLDEN GUN]

Because people want to register them as AW and no they cannot with any lower purchased after 12/22/16!!!

[CALI-gula]

Why such panic on stripped lowers?

Because they might get dressed and go home.

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[Jimi Jah]

Learned my lesson after Sandy Hook.

I follow the Boy Scout Motto:

Be Prepared

[ontmark]

I would think it would be more prudent to buy Bullet Button kits if you want them. They are going to be outlawed and the supply may get dried up.

We will have until next year end to register them as AW.

[ontmark]

I knew a friend that wanted to PPT transfer a stripped lower that was in his name.

The local Gun Shop said it had to be configured as a complete rifle with a fixed magazine to PPT it.

Well we went to the benches and built a rifle with parts we had to transfer it.

[capnemo]

I would have just gone to a different gun store

[Pbl600]

I knew a friend that wanted to PPT transfer a stripped lower that was in his name.



The local Gun Shop said it had to be configured as a complete rifle with a fixed magazine to PPT it.



Well we went to the benches and built a rifle with parts we had to transfer it.

I would have just gone to a different gun store

Same here I would of tried a different store. A buddy of mine bought a stripped lower at turners and they made him buy a lock for it. A different buddy and I went to a different store we each bought stripped lowers and we didn't have to buy locks they had us fill out the safe affidavit.

[IVC]

Lowers mean options, and if a federal AWB does come to pass "pre-ban" lowers will be useful things to own, especially for those of us planning on eventually moving out of CA to a free state.

*Federal* AWB would be highly ineffective due to non-compliance in virtually all but the few coastal states. There are no registries of any kind in most of the country, so the "pre-ban" is only meaningful in CA, not at the federal level.

That's another reason Democrats really, really want the registration and are pushing for "universal background checks" as a euphemism for "gun registry." Without it, any federal ban is going to be toothless and (this time) mostly ignored.

[PyroFox79]

Same here I would of tried a different store. A buddy of mine bought a stripped lower at turners and they made him buy a lock for it. A different buddy and I went to a different store we each bought stripped lowers and we didn't have to buy locks they had us fill out the safe affidavit.

It goes back to what that store was told by the DOJ, ATF, local PD etc. Every store is different because they all get told different things. I've seen it many times.

[roger1022]

Because it's cheaper than buying a complete rifle.

Pretty much this ^^.

On the other hand, if you have the money to buy your favorite EBR then definitely go for it.

[gotaglockinmyrarri]

I clearly cannot talk "for everybody," but my guess is that in CA the run on lowers is to keep one's options open.

While they will most likely remain available for featureless builds for a while(this can change overnight with another law,) if one is to register a few and create standard rifles (CA calls them AWs,) some sort of the lower is required. A stripped lower fits the purpose nicely as it's cheap and doesn't commit one to the specific parts or uppers.

hmm that makes a lot of sense. if you buy a complete lower with a bullet button its drosd as a firearm with a bb and when you register it as a AW. it'll be on file that it has a BB thus once it is a AW you won't be able to take it off and put a regular mag release.. but if buying stripped lowers and registering the lower itself it wouldn't be registered as "with BB" so would you be able to add a regular mag release?

[elSquid]

*Federal* AWB would be highly ineffective due to non-compliance in virtually all but the few coastal states. There are no registries of any kind in most of the country, so the "pre-ban" is only meaningful in CA, not at the federal level.
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Efficacy is a different issue, but pre and post ban were also 1994 AWB concepts.

All the govt would have to do is require all receivers sold post new AWB be marked in an appropriate manner, for example with year of manufacture. It'd be a simple change to ATF marking regs, and an easy way to tag new lowers as being post ban.

Would there be widespread non compliance? Sure. That said, I'd rather be the guy with a small stash of legal, pre ban lowers.

YMMV.

-- Michael