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[dok]

Wonder what they would say about my daughters Hello Kitty AR.Might be embarrasing for the perp if he survived.Just a range toy for now

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Another incident that proves the importance of body cams .

[RandyD]

Yes it does. And it has nothing to do with the facts.

However just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD, and this is a perfect example why.

This is a good example of an attorney spinning something, which is their job. They don't have to prove anything, but if enough jurors fall his spin, he did his job regardless of actual facts.

Exactly. The inscription has nothing to do with the shooting, but it will be used to divert the attention of a jury to the maturity and the mindset possessed by the officer.

[Soginator]

Yes it does. And it has nothing to do with the facts.

However just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD, and this is a perfect example why.

This is a good example of an attorney spinning something, which is their job. They don't have to prove anything, but if enough jurors fall his spin, he did his job regardless of actual facts.

Sad that this is true. It should stop at whether or not the shooting was justified. But they are there to serve their careers, not justice.

[Doheny]

Wait.

Wouldn't the inscription fall under the First Amendment?

What does this have to do with he FACTS of the shoot (I haven't read or heard anything about this case)?

There are limits to a public employee's speech while on duty.

[EastCoaster]

Yes it does. And it has nothing to do with the facts.

However just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD, and this is a perfect example why.

This is a good example of an attorney spinning something, which is their job. They don't have to prove anything, but if enough jurors fall his spin, he did his job regardless of actual facts.

Well stated.

A lesson that also shouldn't be lost upon those who post their questionable commentary online.

[Gryff]

Wouldn't the inscription fall under the First Amendment?

No. The 1A keeps the government from being able to tell you to shut up. It doesn't prevent them from using your stupid statements against you in court.

[Win231]

And people wonder why they shouldn't lighten the trigger pull or be using reloads or 80%'s for SD. It looks like the shooting was not justified, but, even if it was, the dust cover inscription is causing a lot of unnecessary grief.

And if it causes a police officer (who has the whole department backing him) grief, imagine what it would cause for a regular citizen.

Rather amusing when someone counters with, "No one tells me what I can or can't do to my gun" or, "Using handloads won't turn a good shoot into a bad shoot." Logically, it won't but when you're charged & prosecuted, logic won't be part of the equation.

[Cheezle56]

And if it causes a police officer (who has the whole department backing him) grief, imagine what it would cause for a regular citizen.

Rather amusing when someone counters with, "No one tells me what I can or can't do to my gun" or, "Using handloads won't turn a good shoot into a bad shoot." Logically, it won't but when you're charged & prosecuted, logic won't be part of the equation.

Exactly. Why complicate your own defense by using handloads or stupid inscriptions? Even if it's a clean shoot, lawyers will always try to make things difficult. If the perp lives or has family, why complicate your civil suit by leaving an opportunity for them to paint you as trigger happy?

[tbc]

Hmm. I should engrave a peace sign on my defensive CCW.


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[-hanko]

Well stated.

A lesson that also shouldn't be lost upon those who post their questionable commentary online.

Absolutely. Predicting the sky will fall when it has yet to happen only tends to stir the pot...which, in California, has already been well stirred.

And if it causes a police officer (who has the whole department backing him) grief, imagine what it would cause for a regular citizen.

Rather amusing when someone counters with, "No one tells me what I can or can't do to my gun" or, "Using handloads won't turn a good shoot into a bad shoot." Logically, it won't but when you're charged & prosecuted, logic won't be part of the equation.

Uh...

In this instance, the cop is "caused grief" because it initially appears that the incident was not a "good" shoot.

Logically, you'll be criminally prosecuted in a "bad" shoot, and, equally logically, you won't be billed in a "good" shoot.

The fact remains that NO one has ever been criminally prosecuted following a "good" shoot for gun modifications, and / nor for the kind of ammunition used in the shoot.

Exactly. Why complicate your own defense by using handloads or stupid inscriptions? Even if it's a clean shoot, lawyers will always try to make things difficult. If the perp lives or has family, why complicate your civil suit by leaving an opportunity for them to paint you as trigger happy?

Logic fails.

Once again, in a clean shoot, you won't be dealing with a criminal prosecutor.

I would assume that after a good shoot, a civil suit will start. That's why I have an attorney, and that's why I have plenty of insurance. You'll be accused of everything, including trigger happiness. That's simply plaintiff's attorney doing his job.

[SWalt]

Yes it does. And it has nothing to do with the facts.

However just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD, and this is a perfect example why.

This is a good example of an attorney spinning something, which is their job. They don't have to prove anything, but if enough jurors fall his spin, he did his job regardless of actual facts.

Bingo! Attorneys are scum.........

Except Randy D and a few others......

[Dvrjon]

You're killin' me. Is this a St. Patty's day prank for "Irish Joe"?

This is a good example of an attorney spinning something, which is their job. They don't have to prove anything, but if enough jurors fall his spin, he did his job regardless of actual facts.

WTF? There are no jurors at this point. Just a judge. It was a bail release hearing.

And if it causes a police officer (who has the whole department backing him) grief, imagine what it would cause for a regular citizen.

The Chief of Police is moving to fire the dude. Where did you get the idea the whole department is backing him?

The body cam footage ought to be revealing if the PD ever releases it.

[sl0re10]

but having all of the zombie stuff is cool, right guys?!?!?!?!?!

zombie was cover for lib hispter friends for the fact you had a gun. Not an attempt to look bad a**.

[Cokebottle]

There are limits to a public employee's speech while on duty.

Yep. Whether by policy or by common sense.

By common sense?
I'm always having people I meet on the street ask my opinion of candidates for the City Council.

Answer is always the same, I don't live here, you do. I'm trying to make this a more pleasant city to drive in. You have to live and shop here. You have to vote for the candidate that you feel best represents your interests as a resident.

By policy?
"Nice cans" would be a quick trip to the Home Depot application process.