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  • #16
    tophatjones
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1539

    Originally posted by Angrysnarf
    What good is faster ammo if all it does is pass right through you
    Advantages of rifle rounds:

    Terminal ballistics. Bullet profile combined with velocity can make a big difference. Spitzer bullets, especially in conjunction with high velocity and cannelure, will yaw and possibly fragment in flesh.

    Barrier penetration. The higher velocity and sectional density of rifle rounds give them an advantage in penetrating hard barriers.

    Ballistics. The higher ballistic coefficients of rifle bullets plus larger muzzle velocity, and the practical and mechanical accuracy advantage of long arms, means the efficient range of rifles are much farther than handguns.

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    • #17
      elSquid
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2007
      • 11844

      Originally posted by baranski
      That's a pretty good article for selecting SD ammo.
      Yeah, they put a lot of effort into it. Good stuff!

      It's interesting to see the disparity in performance between "old school" HP and newer designs. HydraShock vs HST, for example.

      -- Michael

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      • #18
        beerman
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2009
        • 5056

        Get you one of these...problem solved
        Last edited by beerman; 05-19-2016, 1:42 PM.

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        • #19
          NapalmCheese
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 5954

          Originally posted by Angrysnarf
          What good is faster ammo if all it does is pass right through you
          It makes two holes to bleed out of instead of just one.

          Likewise, higher velocity ammo pushes tissue out of the way at higher velocity. That tissue has momentum. If the velocity is high enough, the momentum can be great enough to overcome the elasticity of that tissue, rupturing said tissue and causing a larger permanent wound cavity.

          Handgun bullets are generally not fast enough to do that, and disrupt only a (or an expanded) caliber size volume of tissue.
          Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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          • #20
            BrokerB
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5350

            Google 5.56 wound photos

            Then do a 9mm wound photos

            You will plainly see carnage difference
            Beans and Bullets

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            • #21
              robcoe
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 8685

              Because when it comes to surviving being attacked there is no such thing as overkill.
              Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
              No, I will not fix your computer.

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              • #22
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19566

                did you red the article you posted?

                Originally posted by Angrysnarf
                Why are rifles better than handgun ammo? Like it says in the link below, handguns suck lol. Why are rifle rounds better?

                http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self...llistic-tests/
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #23
                  -hanko
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 14174

                  Originally posted by Angrysnarf
                  Why are rifles better than handgun ammo? Like it says in the link below, handguns suck lol. Why are rifle rounds better?
                  Rifle rounds are better because they're bigger and have monumental stopping power.

                  Maybe we need a thread about rifles sucking because artillery rounds and a Patriot Missile or Tomahawk is better. :face palm:

                  Stupid thread.
                  True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                  Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                  Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

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                  • #24
                    tanks
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 4038

                    I don't know. Look at the pic below and you tell me

                    "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                    "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                    • #25
                      Angrysnarf
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2860

                      Is that how y'all treat a real question? Ever stop to think not everyone is as read up as y'all?

                      Wow calguns wow

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                      • #26
                        Angrysnarf
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2860


                        Rifles as well lol

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                        • #27
                          Angrysnarf
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2860

                          Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                          It makes two holes to bleed out of instead of just one.

                          Likewise, higher velocity ammo pushes tissue out of the way at higher velocity. That tissue has momentum. If the velocity is high enough, the momentum can be great enough to overcome the elasticity of that tissue, rupturing said tissue and causing a larger permanent wound cavity.

                          Handgun bullets are generally not fast enough to do that, and disrupt only a (or an expanded) caliber size volume of tissue.

                          Now this is an answer thanks!!!

                          Trolls that posted bs suck but thanks napalm cheese

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                          • #28
                            Sutcliffe
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6792

                            How many nations use handguns as a primary infantry weapon?

                            Not 10000% positive, but I'm pretty sure that number would be ZERO.
                            Handguns are great for carrying, but getting in any kind of combat with one past about 15 yards is going to end badly for the handgunner.

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                            • #29
                              golfish
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 10121

                              The suck because I couldn't hit a truck if I was standing next to it. I could with a rifle tho
                              It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                              Happiness is a warm gun.

                              MLC, First 3

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                              • #30
                                BigPimping
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 21460

                                Wait til Glock makes a rifle!!!!
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