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  • #46
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57174

    Originally posted by shinbone1
    The combination on my safe won't work! I've tried shifting the numbers up and down when dialing the combination even tried just one number at a time. I've spent a frustrating 8 hours at it. Can anyone recommend a locksmith?? I don't want to have to have it drilled if possible.
    Some safes go left to first number, one full spin right and then continue to second number and then left to last number.
    Other safes go right to first number, one full spin left and then continue to second number and then right to last number.

    I had two safes that were one way and one safe that went the other way.
    I always forgot to go the other way with that one safe and finally sold it...
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    • #47
      Maddawg46
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 728

      My locksmith told me that you should hit th next to the spinner with a rubber mallet at your last number. Sometimes it will drop the wheels in place. Then try your combo trying one number to the left and then one number to the right for each set of the three numbers. Then he said if you change the combo that process will sometimes work.
      All else fails a safe guy can knock off your wheel and then drill it out. That's probably going to cost you $400.
      This year will go down in history.... Don't want to offend anybody

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      • #48
        curtru
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1278

        Op any luck with the safe cracking? I have a medium sized American safe I think it is supposed to hold about 46 or 48 rifles but really fits half that...lol

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        • #49
          shinbone1
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 91

          ok, so I had a guy come over last night and try dialing it. He had a fancy listening device, and he tried the mallet thing. No luck. He said he talked to the maker and found out that it has not one but two relockers. This makes it exceedingly risky to attempt to drill it. Apparently the guy that built it can open it but I have had a hard time even reaching him on the phone. I will attempt to contact the maker again today and plead with him for some kind of assistance. They said they move the relockers around on each safe they make so as to make it harder for anyone to "know" how to drill them. The guy that came by last night also referred me to another guy that is local, says he is one of the best. I'll keep this post updated since there seems to be some interest.

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          • #50
            TheChief
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1865

            Good luck with this. Sorry to hear about your troubles but do appreciate you relaying the story to us.
            All things being equal...

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            • #51
              Sharp Shooter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 1128

              Originally posted by shinbone1
              ok, so I had a guy come over last night and try dialing it. He had a fancy listening device, and he tried the mallet thing. No luck. He said he talked to the maker and found out that it has not one but two relockers. This makes it exceedingly risky to attempt to drill it. Apparently the guy that built it can open it but I have had a hard time even reaching him on the phone. I will attempt to contact the maker again today and plead with him for some kind of assistance. They said they move the relockers around on each safe they make so as to make it harder for anyone to "know" how to drill them. The guy that came by last night also referred me to another guy that is local, says he is one of the best. I'll keep this post updated since there seems to be some interest.
              Hmm... Sounds like a Hall Safe.

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              • #52
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by shinbone1
                ok, so I had a guy come over last night and try dialing it. He had a fancy listening device
                He doesn't know what he's doing. It's been over 100 years since dial locks were made in a way that you cannot feel or listen for the correct numbers.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #53
                  SteveMartin
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 796

                  You definitely need a yegg.

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                  • #54
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19841

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    He doesn't know what he's doing. It's been over 100 years since dial locks were made in a way that you cannot feel or listen for the correct numbers.
                    Untrue. I saw a Discovery Channel show where a guy makes a living opening safes, all by feel.

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                    • #55
                      DRoberts12345
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 477

                      He's feeling the gates and the false gates. The sound thing doesn't work. My brother ( DR lock and safe) manipulates safes and drills them. He is in Visalia CA, about 4 or 4 1/2 hours away from the Bay Area.
                      If you don't have any luck PM me and I will give you his number. A lot of times he can talk you through the process over the phone. Sometimes people get frustrated and forget the simple stuff.
                      My worst day shooting is better than my best day at work.

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                      In California we're called "Wacko right-wing gun toting nut jobs with an arsenal" most other states just call us People.

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                      • #56
                        DRoberts12345
                        Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 477

                        P. S. He knows a guy closer to you that is really good. They give each other leads all the time.
                        My worst day shooting is better than my best day at work.

                        The power of Gun free Zones https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=hnBWa_xJz6A


                        In California we're called "Wacko right-wing gun toting nut jobs with an arsenal" most other states just call us People.

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                        • #57
                          SonofWWIIDI
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 21583

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Untrue. I saw a Discovery Channel show where a guy makes a living opening safes, all by feel.
                          You mean this guy?

                          Sorry, not sorry.
                          🎺

                          Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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                          • #58
                            Eat Dirt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 9710

                            Had a friend of mine call me a while back , said he couldn't get into his safe
                            He tried and tried but it would not open

                            I asked 'Have you changed the battery behind the keypad ' ?
                            ' Oh .... Where's that ?'

                            I had to talk him thru battery replacement

                            If only the O P's problem could be that easy
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                            I miss the Good 'ol days of Cal -Guns

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                            • #59
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by sigstroker
                              Untrue. I saw a Discovery Channel show where a guy makes a living opening safes, all by feel.
                              I saw that too. The lock was modified to make that possible. Watch the video posted a couple posts up and you'll see.
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                              • #60
                                shinbone1
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 91

                                I have a guy coming next week. He is quite confident that he can open it either by dialing or drilling. If he has to drill, the repair should be seamless. He also plans to replace my lock with a superior S&G. I have a LaGuard now. And he's also a lot more affordable than the previous quotes that I've gotten.

                                Thanks for the offer of the guy from Visaila.

                                I found this useful,
                                SAVTA is the Safe & Vault Technicians Association - The worlds leading trade association devoted entirely to serving professional safe and vault technicians worldwide.


                                As before, I will update as I progress through this conundrum.

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