I need a safe cracker

[JDay]

My safe died too. I even paid to get a new copy of the combo from the manufacture. Didn't work. Now I have drilled it in several places. Can't figure out what to do next. Thinking about using a saw to cut the dial mech out.


Or I can fill the drill holes with black powder. I have really long fuses. Do you think 1 lb will do it or should I go buy another lb?

I hope you're joking.

[Wes C Addle]

black powder? that's a horrible idea. use a MAPP torch to cut the top off or the locking mechanism out

[Glocked@45]

A safe cracker as in an edible treat?
Or a safe cracker as in a harmless white person?

Now that was funny!

[sigstroker]

I'd first find someone who has a mechanical dialer. If the combination did slip a mechanical dialer will be able to get the safe open in about 24 hours without drilling and then you can reset the combination or replace the lock.

Dat's some real James Bond-lookin **** there.

[JDay]

Dat's some real James Bond-lookin **** there.

It's pretty nifty. And because there's a dead zone between numbers it doesn't have to try every combination. Pretty much every professional safe cracker has one on hand.

[BretByron]

Our safe says to spin 7 times to the left to clear it.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Eh, when ATF search warranted my house, one safe would not open. I had been warned not to spin the dials but I guess I did and the damn thing was not working.

They called a locksmith who drilled it out, did it very nicely and the new lock I had to buy covered up any evidence of the prior drill work. The cost was not too much.

More details about the search please. Why, when, did they come up all swatty and tactical, or approach you relaxed?

By "spinning the dials" I meant that supposedly spinning the dials leads to internal slippage and the combo changes without you knowing what the new one is now.

Same thing happened to me. I was frustrated (right after I got the safe) and was having trouble. So I spun the dials pretty hard a few times...not smart. Fortunately only one number slipped and by only one digit. Now I'm a bit more careful.

[RTE]

You can't spin the dials?

NO
You turn the dial.....Spinning the dial fast is the one of the worst things you can do....(Per my Safe and Locksmith guy)
Actually he says GO Ahead, more work for me when you do.

Its akin to spinning the cylinder and slamming it shut on a revolver.
Looks cool, but not.

[Rogerbutthead]

More details about the search please. Why, when, did they come up all swatty and tactical, or approach you relaxed?

Two days after a burglary where the police had spent three hours investigating me and my collection, I got a call saying that they had car stopped someone with one of my missing pistols. The location was around a half a mile from me. They wanted me to identify the pistol. So I went. When I got out of my truck and walked up to the police car, the "suspect" came toward me - I stated "you don't even handcuff them?" And then the local Police told me they were helping ATF serve a search warrant on my house - as they handcuffed me.

Of the fifty or so agents/police officers - most looked like out of shape bureaucrats toting bullet proof vests and MP5's. Some were actually eating donuts and drinking coffee. My neighbors got a good show. They weren't rude but I am missing at least one 13 round HiPower magazine.

You should expect a similar response if you have registered Assault weapons, a toy MP40 and plastic (fake) grenades. Your local PD won't know the difference when they report their find to ATF.

Also this was near Christmas 2005, so I think ATF took the occasion to have their office party prior to raiding my house. It started around 2 pm and the last one left around 1 am, if memory serves.

Not an experience I would wish on others.

[gsparesa]

What was the make and model of this safe? Was it made in China or the USA?

[SonofWWIIDI]

Two days after a burglary where the police had spent three hours investigating me and my collection, I got a call saying that they had car stopped someone with one of my missing pistols. The location was around a half a mile from me. They wanted me to identify the pistol. So I went. When I got out of my truck and walked up to the police car, the "suspect" came toward me - I stated "you don't even handcuff them?" And then the local Police told me they were helping ATF serve a search warrant on my house - as they handcuffed me.

Of the fifty or so agents/police officers - most looked like out of shape bureaucrats toting bullet proof vests and MP5's. Some were actually eating donuts and drinking coffee. My neighbors got a good show. They weren't rude but I am missing at least one 13 round HiPower magazine.

You should expect a similar response if you have registered Assault weapons, a toy MP40 and plastic (fake) grenades. Your local PD won't know the difference when they report their find to ATF.

Also this was near Christmas 2005, so I think ATF took the occasion to have their office party prior to raiding my house. It started around 2 pm and the last one left around 1 am, if memory serves.

Not an experience I would wish on others.

That's sucks.

Thanks for filling us in.

[1911R SSS]

Had this happen to me. Luckily the first and last numbers of the combo had only made shift of two digits in the direction they were rotated. By subtracting 2 from those it works fine. For example 19-35-55 became 17-35-53. OP. Try over shooting the combo by a couple digits in the direction of the turning.

If you do get it open then remove the door cover and lock. Open the back of the lock and you should be able to see the tumblers as they line up to verify the new worn lock combo. What I found inside was that the inside of the rotor plates had keyholed where they contact the dual shaft.

The above story is true. Only the numbers were changed to protect the innocent.

TRY THIS FIRST, it happened to my safe but only on the 2nd number. I couldn't open it for a while finally I just went past the number and the damn thing opened.

[Mickey D]

Does your safe have a relocker? If so, it might have triggered, especially if it has a glass trigger.

[curtru]

Have you contacted the manufacturer and they might be able to help
Never mind I didn't read all of the post before making a comment...lol
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[shinbone1]

I tried dialing up and down every combination 5 digits in both directions, dialing the combo fast etc.

It is an American safe with a re-locker but it wont engage unless the lock is punched or drilled wrong.

The manufacturer has not been very helpful at all. I'll wait to see if he comes through before I drop his name on here. Its supposed to be a very reputable maker/dealer.

I have a guy that coming over tonight that says he can get into it. He says if he has to drill it, I'll never be able to tell when he is done. Very reasonable too.