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  • #16
    Wnick308
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 845

    Originally posted by nedro
    There is much more to active shooting training than you are giving credit for.
    By taking the, I have nothing stance, you are making yourself the victim. Which means, you will die.
    There is always something you can do. Even if you are on your knees with 20 other people about to be executed.
    You may want to look into it. It may just save your, whoa is me life.

    Running, hiding, then fighting is taking the "I have nothing stance." Stopping a active shooter should start be for it even happens.

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    • #17
      desertjosh
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 5749

      You know the phrase " don't bring a knife to a gun fight"?
      I don't think it would work any better without a knife.
      Welcome to OT, where hypocrisy is King, outrage is Queen and the Kingdom is on the shores of the Denial River.

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      • #18
        barrage
        Banned
        • Oct 2012
        • 3351

        Originally posted by dyson
        i made nun-chucks out of two telephones since i can't ccw.
        No good. Nunchaku are illegal in California. Not allowed to defend yourself with those either. Just remember, in an active shooter situation, it's best to call CalDOJ first and ask them what weapon you're allowed to fashion. They'll probably just tell you to cower under a desk and die though. Best to let the "professionals" who are 20 minutes away and under no legal obligation to provide you with safety take care of things.

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        • #19
          DDM4556
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jun 2014
          • 2601

          I suggest everyone re-watch Home Alone. And take notes.
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          • #20
            Jimi Jah
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2014
            • 18705

            Americans used to fight first, run and hide last.

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            • #21
              barrage
              Banned
              • Oct 2012
              • 3351

              Originally posted by DDM4556
              I suggest everyone re-watch Home Alone. And take notes.

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              • #22
                Catch
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1327

                Saw the same clip at work during active shooter training. The woman shrieking is gonna get everyone killed.
                Fire extinguisher was the only ad hock weapon suggested. Also not pulling the fire alarm was recommended.

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                • #23
                  nedro
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 4130

                  Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                  Americans used to fight first, run and hide last.
                  And still do if armed. Active shooter training is to teach you how to survive when you are unarmed. If you are armed 100% of the time 100% of everywhere you go, you are ahead of the curve. Until of course, SWAT shows up and shoots you. In active shooter training they even go over not being killed by rescuers. It's information. The more the better.

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                  • #24
                    Maximusmax51
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 625

                    This conversation and safety practice is much more prevalent in corporate businesses. We (hospitality ind.) recently made a strong push to incorporate this into practice, much like a fire drill or natural disaster drill.

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                    • #25
                      RedFord150
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 5665

                      Originally posted by Catch
                      Saw the same clip at work during active shooter training. The woman shrieking is gonna get everyone killed.
                      Fire extinguisher was the only ad hock weapon suggested. Also not pulling the fire alarm was recommended.
                      I saw a similar video.

                      No reference to shrieking woman or not pulling fire alarm. Neither of these mentioned.

                      Fire extinguisher only used to spray shooter. After getting hit by chemical, shooter falls unconscious. How likely is that? He would be unconscious if someone used the FE as a club and bashed his head in.

                      Pot of hot coffee would be a great weapon. No mention of that.
                      God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                      • #26
                        homelessdude
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 2102

                        Should be fight first then hide and lastly run. Would be nice if the gov. got it's head out of it's a** and helped.

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                        • #27
                          nedro
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 4130

                          Originally posted by homelessdude
                          Should be fight first then hide and lastly run. Would be nice if the gov. got it's head out of it's a** and helped.
                          Fighting an armed person while unarmed is a bad decision. Bad decisions are probably why you are homeless. Don't add dead to the situation. That would be another bad decision.

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                          • #28
                            BrokerB
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5320

                            You know after scott jones has approved 6,000+ ccw folks in last 5 years he was itching to say.." if you are confident enough and take some training. ..always carry ".

                            I place more importance on my life and my families then law and some facists s for brains under a white dome.
                            Beans and Bullets

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                            • #29
                              nedro
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 4130

                              You place ZERO importance on you family if you are willing to go to jail and leave them high and dry because of your insistence to carry no matter what laws you are breaking.
                              While I respect your diligence in this matter, I also pity a situation where your family is looking for food and shelter.

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                              • #30
                                BrokerB
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 5320

                                Where do you get me being locked up in jail that my family becomes homeless and hungry? Wild imagination.

                                If there is a law that endangers my family or limits what I can do to protect at a needed time, I make my choice. Heads of family die all the time..the rest of the family doesn't just roll over and cry in a ditch. If your family is so weak they become homeless and hungry you have many more issues then any carry law.

                                You can keep your pity party to you and your family when calling for help...or when .."run and hiding".
                                Beans and Bullets

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