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  • #16
    biglou
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1317

    IIRC CCW holders in Montana are exempt from federal background checks

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    • #17
      thetaxman
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 885

      Originally posted by Ronin2
      The whole 10 day wait is pointless for anyone who the governemt knows to already leafs ly own a gun, which was the basis if a recent judicial ruling.
      Apologies, didn't realize the 10 wait had gone. That's a step in the right direction.
      There are no great men. Just great challenges which ordinary men, out of necessity, are forced by circumstance to meet.

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      • #18
        Ugly Hombre
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 1191

        Some states are still American and free- and don't think its the fooking governments right to know about every GD thing that you own and have.

        Radical huh?



        In leftist controlled serf states- it's a different story..

        The leftist jive ***'s constantly holler about the bull**** 2nd amendment "loophole" but actually- its states rights.

        The statist Democrats don't yet have totalitarian control.

        And that drives um' bat ****.
        Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 01-17-2016, 7:02 PM.

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        • #19
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          It's not that they're exempt, the CCW permit qualifies as passing a background check.
          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
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          • #20
            Hugga Nugga
            Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 371

            That was the main reason initially for getting a CCW for me. In and out after filling out 4473. I had been delayed a few times previously it didn't want to have to go through that crap again
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            • #21
              rromeo
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2009
              • 6981

              I was delayed for an hour once, every time after that, it took longer to input data than waiting for the approval.
              Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

              - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
              (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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              • #22
                God Bless America
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2014
                • 5165

                Originally posted by Beendare
                I hear or prez railing against guns but isn't it federal law in the US you have to go through a background check? I hear him mention the 'gun shows' are these really treated differently?

                Are there states you can walk in a buy a handgun the same day?
                In Chicago.

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                • #23
                  Milsurp Collector
                  Calguns Addict
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 5884

                  Originally posted by thetaxman
                  Apologies, didn't realize the 10 wait had gone. That's a step in the right direction.
                  It isn't gone. The appeals process is still going on http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=974616 People in California still have to put their new firearm purchases "in jail" as they call it for 10 days.

                  Originally posted by Beendare
                  Are there states you can walk in a buy a handgun the same day?
                  Every state except the ones listed below.

                  States Imposing Waiting Periods for Purchases of All Firearms

                  California (10 days)
                  District of Columbia (10 days)
                  Hawaii (14 days)
                  Illinois (24 hours) (long guns); 72 hours (handguns)
                  Rhode Island (7 days)

                  States Imposing Waiting Periods for Purchases of Handguns and Assault Weapons

                  Minnesota (7 days)

                  States Imposing Waiting Periods for Handguns Only

                  Florida (3 days)
                  Iowa (3 days)
                  Maryland (7 days)
                  New Jersey (7 days)
                  Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 01-17-2016, 9:40 PM.
                  Revolvers are not pistols

                  pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                  Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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                  • #24
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 13321

                    Originally posted by Beendare
                    Anywhere in US without background checks?
                    Corner of Florence Ave. and Western.

                    Ask for Darnell. Don't wear red or blue. Bring cash. Day-time only. No luxury cars. Leave the watch and jewelry at home. Dress cheap.

                    According to his Armslist ad, it's legit.
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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #25
                      Chameleon Loco
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2187

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      Corner of Florence Ave. and Western.

                      Ask for Darnell. Don't wear red or blue. Bring cash. Day-time only. No luxury cars. Leave the watch and jewelry at home. Dress cheap.

                      According to his Armslist ad, it's legit.
                      I got my first gun from darnell, he hooks it up fat even threw in an extra clip. Said if I had any other hommies that needed heat to send them to him. I spoke to him a few days ago and he told me that he has some choppers coming in hot off the block he is even offering a cal guns discount if we do a group buy.

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                      • #26
                        mosinnagantm9130
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2009
                        • 8783

                        Originally posted by thetaxman
                        Nope. In many states, no NICS background check is performed by an FFL if the purchaser is a CHL/CCW holder. Photocopy of your DL and CHL plus a 4473 and you're done.
                        I thought someone might bring that up.

                        You go through a background check to get the LTC.

                        Therefore, you've still gone through a background check.
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                        • #27
                          stascom
                          Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 220

                          Universal BGC is created to outlaw private sale. In free states you sell a firearm like any other tool. With mandated checks, you can't sell the item whenever or wherever you want. Must be at FFL during business hours, and give the government their cut of the sale.
                          Last edited by stascom; 01-18-2016, 9:31 AM.

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                          • #28
                            The Tiger
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1989

                            Originally posted by The Gleam
                            Corner of Florence Ave. and Western.

                            Ask for Darnell. Don't wear red or blue. Bring cash. Day-time only. No luxury cars. Leave the watch and jewelry at home. Dress cheap.

                            According to his Armslist ad, it's legit.
                            It's good to hear someone is helping out the homies after the loss of Uncle Leland.
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                            • #29
                              Beendare
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 598

                              Originally posted by sakosf
                              see chart approx 1/3 of the way down on the web page

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole
                              Thx for the info guys...especially this post thx Sak

                              Jeez, I could have just googled it-- facepalm

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                              • #30
                                CSACANNONEER
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 44094

                                Just TWO YEARS AGO, in Ca, it was perfectly legal to buy certain firearms from non FFL holders on a cash and carry basis without a background check or waiting period.
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