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  • #46
    TonyNorCal
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2004
    • 7963

    People always muck everything up in threads like this by providing answers for types of transactions that have their fees capped and comparing them to those which don't.

    There are three basic types of transfers in California...

    1. You buy a gun that's at a gun store. It may be store's inventory, or it may be a consignment that is in the store. The DROS (state fee) fee is $25. The profit in such a transaction is made on the gun itself, either as a mark-up or percentage of the consignment.

    2. You buy a gun from another person, and you both physically go to a gun store/FFL. This is a PPT (private party transfer). The DROS is $25. The dealer is legally allowed to charge another $10 for their effort/time in processing the transfer. Thus, the total is $35. For this type of transfer, this is all they are allowed to charge. If they charge more, they are breaking the law. The state mandates this to encourage legal firearms transfers.

    This capped PPT fee is a reason why some FFLs discourage PPTs and make life hard when people try to do them. But, the smart FFLs do them efficiently, because they know that gets folks in the store, and those folks may come back and buy other things, particularly when things are done smoothly and the service is cool.

    3. You buy a gun from someone and it is shipped to a store/FFL. This is not a PPT (even if a 'private party' is shipping it). It could be someone in California, someone out, another business, etc. The seller not present is the key. In this case, the DROS fee is $25 (as always). However, the FFL can charge whatever they want for processing the transfer. One FFL may charge another $25. Another FFL may charge $150. The reason for this is that their processing fee is the only way they can make money on such a deal. So, for this type of transfer it obviously pays to shop around. And, when you call and ask, don't ask what they charge for a PPT, or you're likely to get the wrong info. Ask what they charge if it's being shipped.

    So, out of the three above, the only relevant type of transfer to mention when comparing costs is #3 (when a gun is shipped), as it's the only one with variable costs.
    Last edited by TonyNorCal; 01-22-2016, 7:28 AM.

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    • #47
      highpower
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2012
      • 5306

      My FFL does my out of state transfers for free. I have a CCW, so no fee for the background check.


      Most of my PPT buys here in Nevada are FTF in a parking lot, so no fees there either. I just bought a West German Sig P226 yesterday for $450 in the lot at my local grocery store.
      Last edited by highpower; 01-22-2016, 7:46 AM.
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      • #48
        Flyron
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2014
        • 440

        Originally posted by kmas
        In Cali, and only $35

        If your local GS charges more than $35 for a simple transfer, go someplace else. Also support your FFL by purchasing ammo or other services. I have mine do an inspection & cleaning of all used guns. [emoji1417]

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        • #49
          dyson
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 4342

          so $45 + tax/dros at mparms is the cheapest in the bay area?

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          • #50
            JTBEE24
            Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 135

            Originally posted by dyson
            so $45 + tax/dros at mparms is the cheapest in the bay area?
            Appears that way. There are other LGS's that are closer to me, but usually charge much more. IMO, you won't find a better FFL in the Bay Area.

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            • #51
              dyson
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 4342

              Originally posted by JTBEE24
              Appears that way. There are other LGS's that are closer to me, but usually charge much more. IMO, you won't find a better FFL in the Bay Area.
              ya i like the pricing on his inventory too.

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              • #52
                King of the 109ers
                Member
                • Sep 2015
                • 335

                I think the NRA or somebody should sponsor or subsidize FFL fees.

                Have a NRA Team Playa FFL in each county and guarantee them an extra 10,000 Transfers at $10 apiece.

                Maybe do them en mass by batches only on certain days and after regular hours so its just 20 guys sitting at cheap tables all filling out the paperwork together.

                Do most of it on the web, or at least have a good online tutorial.

                Seems like FFL transactions at LGS are like pulling teeth and each one has to be baby sat.

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                • #53
                  slayer61
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 1402

                  GSG in Lodi

                  $0 transfer fee and of course $35 DROS
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                  • #54
                    Rizzo
                    Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 444

                    FFL Fee: $25.00
                    DROS: $25.00
                    ----------------
                    Total: $50.00

                    Redding. Calif.

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                    • #55
                      ZombieKiller
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2555

                      Next comes the "I'm Leaving for a free state thread"...




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                      • #56
                        golfish
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 10123

                        40.00 + the 25.00 dros fee at 2AZone (I think that's what they charge)

                        Don't tell em but I'd gladly pay more because its hassle free, two miles from the house and I'm in and out in less then 10 minutes.
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                        • #57
                          rromeo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 6981

                          Why do you pay $25 for DROS? The most I ever paid was $19.
                          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                          • #58
                            orangeusa
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 9055

                            Very well said. I was referring to #3.

                            Originally posted by TonyNorCal
                            People always muck everything up in threads like this by providing answers for types of transactions that have their fees capped and comparing them to those which don't.

                            There are three basic types of transfers in California...

                            1. You buy a gun that's at a gun store. It may be store's inventory, or it may be a consignment that is in the store. The DROS (state fee) fee is $25. The profit in such a transaction is made on the gun itself, either as a mark-up or percentage of the consignment.

                            2. You buy a gun from another person, and you both physically go to a gun store/FFL. This is a PPT (private party transfer). The DROS is $25. The dealer is legally allowed to charge another $10 for their effort/time in processing the transfer. Thus, the total is $35. For this type of transfer, this is all they are allowed to charge. If they charge more, they are breaking the law. The state mandates this to encourage legal firearms transfers.

                            This capped PPT fee is a reason why some FFLs discourage PPTs and make life hard when people try to do them. But, the smart FFLs do them efficiently, because they know that gets folks in the store, and those folks may come back and buy other things, particularly when things are done smoothly and the service is cool.

                            3. You buy a gun from someone and it is shipped to a store/FFL. This is not a PPT (even if a 'private party' is shipping it). It could be someone in California, someone out, another business, etc. The seller not present is the key. In this case, the DROS fee is $25 (as always). However, the FFL can charge whatever they want for processing the transfer. One FFL may charge another $25. Another FFL may charge $150. The reason for this is that their processing fee is the only way they can make money on such a deal. So, for this type of transfer it obviously pays to shop around. And, when you call and ask, don't ask what they charge for a PPT, or you're likely to get the wrong info. Ask what they charge if it's being shipped.

                            So, out of the three above, the only relevant type of transfer to mention when comparing costs is #3 (when a gun is shipped), as it's the only one with variable costs.

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                            • #59
                              orangeusa
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 9055

                              Originally posted by rromeo
                              Why do you pay $25 for DROS? The most I ever paid was $19.
                              That price was set by the CA DOJ, I believe. I can't find the link on my phone....

                              .

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                              • #60
                                rromeo
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 6981

                                Sorry, that was a joke. You pay $25 total, but the DROS fee really is $19, then there's $1 firearm safety act fee, and $5 safety and enforcement fee.
                                Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                                - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                                (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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