One argument why I am against "common sense" gun control . . .

[ordc]

This is one of the stupidest posts I have seen in quite awhile. The comparison of the two is just asinine.

Do not blame me if you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the premise of what I posted.

(PS: I am a member of Mensa, dare you to google it)




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[ordc]

You and others make this silly analogy that abortion and homosexual sex are equivalent to 2a rights. Then the conversation becomes about abortion and homosexual sex.



I don't care if you want to have a convo about those two items. It's off topic, but whatever. I won't even get into those conversations.



Before I even entertain the concept, I need the originators and defenders to explain to me, the equivalence of these issues.



2a = A natural right to defend life and liberty



Abortion = A right to choose to abort a baby (???)



Homo sex = A right to choose to diddle the same sex (???)





Tell me which is more important. Tell me where one of the other two are being actively pushed (bans and criminality, legislatively, judicialy etc) to the extent 2a is attacked.



Do you have to register your surgical utensils? You're penis? Do you have to wait x days for your procedure or your intercourse? Do you have to get a background check? Are you limited to less than six abortions per x time period? 1 in 30 boinkings from your boyfriend?



Of course these are mostly rhetorical questions, not to back you in a corner but to illustrate that your 'opinion' is wildly devoid of real context and disingenuous.

Vast majority of the western world has polar opposite view as you.

2a is not a right. Abortion and homosexual sex are.

I am very libertarian in my beliefs. . . .however, as a student of history, Simon Bolivar, el Liberator of South America who loved the US and sent his nephew to be educated here said, and paraphrasing, that the vast majority of South Americans unfortunately cannot be trusted with freedom vs. the US which attracts freedom seeking adventurers of all stripes.


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[ordc]

Also, I am done with this thread.

The whole purpose was to show a successful argument I have made against liberals. Who invariably want gun control, but no abortion control.

It is an emotional issue on both sides.

So I basically share the analogy, the way liberals want no abortion laws at all in fear it may eventually out law abortion down the road, gun lovers want no gun control laws at all with a similar fear it will eventually lead to an outlaw of guns.

Successful arguments I have made. They may not agree, but at least I open their eyes to the emotional aspect of it all. I for one do engage talking to people with different views face to face, respectfully and get my point across with analogies.




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[readysetgo]

I guess if your audience is shallow you can get away with shallow analogies. I prefer clarity over agreement personally.

[Jimi Jah]

Common sense isn't very common. I prefer horse sense as horses would never believe in the crap that commoners do.

[ar15barrels]

Has godwins law been invoked yet?

[IVC]

Has godwins law been invoked yet?

Here we go - if it's not spelling Nazis, is the Godwin's law Nazis.

Oh, wait...

[Wes C Addle]

Woman's choice comes when she chooses to spread her legs. Killing an unborn living human is not a choice, it's killing.

Blame the woman, of course. What if she had no choice in the matter as is the case with victims of incest and rape? What if the guy, who previously had a condom on, either broke the condom or took it off without her consent?

[Wes C Addle]

Just what the heck is Pro Abortion. Are you saying every pregnant woman should have an abortion? Just wow!

I would imagine that 40 years without abortions would lessen the need to allow illegal immigrants and Syrian refugees in to this country. They are being allowed in since the birth rate has fallen below sustainable levels.

ORDC is probably at least 41 years old, condemning anyone under 40 to death.

Too bad he's too slow to understand the subtlties between his so-called "pro-abortion" and pro-choice.

[major burnout]

Blame the woman, of course. What if she had no choice in the matter as is the case with victims of incest and rape? What if the guy, who previously had a condom on, either broke the condom or took it off without her consent?

I blame the baby. Capital punishment.

[ar15barrels]

Here we go - if it's not spelling Nazis, is the Godwin's law Nazis.

Oh, wait...

[Pardini]

[QUOTE=ordc;17490280]You are the only reply I have read to my post that understands what I am trying to write. . .

I am pro abortion. So is the GOP because if they were not, they would use those words, "common sense" when pro life measures are on the table.

I think that the only real common sense abortion control is to ask if the woman was raped (to keep DNA evidence, and go after the guy, etc.) and if underage, her parents will have to be notified but the ultimate decision to have the abortion goes to the girl.

The only common sense gun control is whatever gun control that is applicable to civilians also has to apply equally to government officers. I cannot carry gun, neither can they. I cannot own a certain gun, neither can they, etc.



The GOP is pro abortion?

[oddball]

Do not blame me if you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the premise of what I posted.

(PS: I am a member of Mensa, dare you to google it)

And this certainly tops your original post. So you think a "Mensa" member automatically makes one's premise correct and dogma, huh?

God, how pathetic.

And yes, your OP is still one of the more moronic analogies I've read. Mensa and all