Low Ball Offers

[Spyder]

I don't really care about offending anyone. If they don't like my offer, they don't have to bother with a response.

[Par5In2]

$899 for a glock 34

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1121824

I bought my sp-01, brand new, otd, dros, and a reach-around for less than that.

lol... $899

[jdigi101]

"low ball offers will be ignored"

If you send an offer and you don't hear from the OP you have sent their version of a low ball.

If you don't send an offer you will never know.

[static2126]

$899 for a glock 34

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1121824

I bought my sp-01, brand new, otd, dros, and a reach-around for less than that.

lol... $899

At least it is a gen 4 g34

I collect G19s. The guys that think they are getting 500 to 550 for a stock "new or barely used" g19 are.crazy..maybe you.will get 500 with mom stock sights. One guy was trying to sell his stock gen 3 G19 (never fired for 625)......he was offended when I asked for 425 (what a stock.gen 3 g19 is worth). He ended up.pulling the sale. Generally on used sale you do not get the tax and dros back. Also if you have a common commodity gun like a gen 3 g19, unless there is a panic 425 to.450 is around right

[nedro]

I don't really care about offending anyone. If they don't like my offer, they don't have to bother with a response.

Listen Spyder, if I wanted sound logic, I wouldn't be on the internet.

[Whiskey_Sauer]

I have a scope listed in the marketplace for over 25 percent off msrp. I've had people offer me less than half of what I paid for it. Pretty insulting, but I did list it as OBO.

Only on Calguns do people believe that goods do not depreciate in value, or that there is no risk involved in buying from a private party.

If you don't want to be insulted, just say that the price is "firm." Not so difficult.

[dpop24]

Some guys just don't have it in them to pay the asked for price, so they offer less than what you're asking even if it's fairly priced. Several times a guy has made me an offer on an item and I politely declined. When I lowered the price to their offer price, they made me a new offer with a lower price. I couldn't understand why if they were willing to buy the item at their first offered price, why they wouldn't take it when the new asking price dropped to match their first offer. I guess it's just a barter's mentality.

I listen to all offers even if they are ridiculous and will counter back with a reasonable counter offer. If we can't agree on a deal, I say thank you, but no thank you and move on.

[I Swan]

I still don't see too many scenarios why someone would take a lowball offer on an item that has a consistent track record of selling for more. Very limited cases where I can see that happening like when the seller needs the cash immediately. People sometimes weaken their selling position by mentioning their desperation to sell. Divorce sale, car repairs issues, stuff like that.

[madoka]

A seller's interpretation of a low ball offer is very subjective. There's no right or wrong with this.

Well, sometimes I think it's obvious who's wrong.

On 6/25 I made an offer of $1100 on a $1200 gun. I looked up the gun in question and made what I considered to be a very fair offer that was still over the market rate for it. The seller ignored me.

Almost four months later, he is still bumping his ad. He has dropped the price down to $1150 now. I think the market has spoken and he should realize that he's overcharging for it.

[I Swan]

Well, sometimes I think it's obvious who's wrong.

On 6/25 I made an offer of $1100 on a $1200 gun. I looked up the gun in question and made what I considered to be a very fair offer that was still over the market rate for it. The seller ignored me.

Almost four months later, he is still bumping his ad. He has dropped the price down to $1150 now. I think the market has spoken and he should realize that he's overcharging for it.

That happened to me at a 0awn shop once. I offered like $115 on a gun that was like $125. They refused then months late I saw the gun languishing unsold with a price tag for $110 and I did not buy it.

[Shovel]

$899 for a glock 34

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1121824

I bought my sp-01, brand new, otd, dros, and a reach-around for less than that.

lol... $899

I paid $725 ish OTD for my Gen 4 34 last year. I wouldn't mind adding another 34 to the collection but that is a steep price.

[drkphibr]

My .02

A firearm's value is whatever the market will bear. Condition, accessories (original box, papers, etc.) and a host of other variables will play into the valuation to both a buyer and seller. Unfortunately, all too many sellers seem to believe their sentimental value or assessment adds true value.

What I find interesting is how some sellers approach value. Great examples are the polymers I see that have "upgrades" (taste, such as stippling, are always in the eye of the beholder and impossible to place a value on) and have "only been shot 100 rounds" (ummm, yeah, sure) and asking price is hundreds of dollars above retail. A used gun is a used gun and your "upgrades" don't necessarily add value and trying to recover your full investment (I've even seen sales that have documented for value purposes sales tax/shipping charges on the original purchase) for a common item is completely unrealistic.

There are always exceptions for something rare and or unique, but I see too many commodity firearms that the sellers over value and when you PM with a reasonable offer (again, that's subjective and case by case) the sellers freak out.

I love hearing how much GB sales for a gun are and the seller has one "almost as good", so by logic, it should sell for almost as much. Garbage. Sellers only quote exceptional GB sales versus the average (or even the low sales) as a means of justifying their price and anything below asking is now considered "low ball". Remember the $3,000 ARs after Sandy Hook (and bare LGS shelves)? Same ARs are now 1/3 that price or less. A $2,000 offer at that time would have probably been considered "low ball", whereas today that offer would be considered quite the premium. Market conditions along with perceived (from the buyer's point) value will be key purchase points IMO.

So, stating "low ball offers will be ignored" is as useful as saying "final price drop" or "if it doesn't sell today, it's going back in the safe" (um, so where is it now, outside the safe with a for sale sign in the window?). Means nothing and a waste of text space. Again, just my .02.

[GlockN'Roll]

If your item is priced competitively, it'll sell.

If your item is priced competitively, it'll sell.

Otherwise you'll be playing the bump game until you get tired of it.

One thing that we don't play with here is overpriced items.

Like others have said, just because you overpaid for something doesn't mean I will.

Personally, I also bought a rifle in the panic and got totally screwed. I paid $2800otd for a $1000otd rifle. I'll never sell that rifle because I'll lose money. I know this so I just keep it.

Each bump should be accompanied by a reduction in price.

If your price is firm, then no bumps should be allowed ...

We all have seen the overpriced (as determined by the market) items languish in bumpers hell.

A serious counter offer is a part of the negotiation and never an insult by itself, no more than a ridiculous starting price is an insult to a buyer ...

[I Swan]

Back in the safe is one of my favorites. Like that scare tactic is going to work on me usually it is on a common easily available gun too and I guarantee that if I PM after it goes back in the safe that I will buy it that they will sell it. In many cases I bet there even isn't a safe of at most it is a stack on gun cabinet.

As for round counts actually I own many guns that I only personally put 100-200 rounds or less through I don't know why calgunners think that is impossible. I own hundreds of firearms so I don't need to put high round counts on them all. And frankly I don't think quite a few calgunners have the time or money to put higher round counts on their guns.

[Teddybest]

I think "low ball" offers are too obvious. Too many trolls to count.