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  • #31
    riderr
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 6632

    Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
    A quick Google search turns up no examples of any non-citizens charged with illegal voting.
    Maria Azada, 53, of Grayslake, Ill., was arrested March 17 by ICE HSI agents and a Lake County State's Attorneys special investigator. Azada faces 17 felony counts in Lake County Circuit Court of perjury, mutilation of election materials, and tampering with voting machines in connection with illegal voting by a non-U.S. citizen.

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    • #32
      riderr
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2013
      • 6632

      Originally posted by huntercf
      Another question arises, since that "Federal limits apply" is on the license. Couldn't the BP checkpoints just ask to see everyone's license and if it has that then they have proof they are an illegal?
      No, even if they insist otherwise. Only the state police are allowed to demand your DL while you drive a vehicle. However, the state police is legally not allowed to discriminate you because of AB-60.
      Moreover, there are plenty of legally present aliens who can get AB-60 only due to the strict immigration status criteria from DMV.
      Last edited by riderr; 10-19-2015, 1:00 PM.

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      • #33
        sigstroker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 19645

        Don't the cartels just get their guns from the ATF?

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        • #34
          onelonehorseman
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 4888

          Originally posted by Wes C Addle
          that's hardly what i would call a fugitive from the law. they're allowed to be here because they contribute to social security and pay federal, state, and local taxes.
          So you believe someone who is illegally trepassing in this country (be it a laborer or a terrorist), discretely avoiding federal deportation, is not a fugitive?
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          • #35
            CaliforniaLiberal
            #1 Bull Goose Loony
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 4690

            Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
            A quick Google search turns up no examples of any non-citizens charged with illegal voting.

            A quick Google search turns up a couple of whack-job tea party web sites that all site the same years old study that was not based on actual data, but on the "estimates" by two college professors in North Carolina.

            So I'll ask again, where and when have non-citizens voted?

            03/17/2011

            ""

            A non-citizen woman from Illinois was arrested for voter fraud four and a half years ago. This definitely fits the description of a non-citizen charged with illegal voting.

            I find one arrest five years ago in Illinois not so very big a concern.

            It seems that hysterical terror of non-citizens voting illegally might not be warranted.
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            • #36
              Wes C Addle
              Banned
              • Apr 2015
              • 1867

              Originally posted by onelonehorseman
              So you believe someone who is illegally trepassing in this country (be it a laborer or a terrorist), discretely avoiding federal deportation, is not a fugitive?
              I do not believe that illegal immigrants are fugitives from the law.

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              • #37
                riderr
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2013
                • 6632

                Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
                03/17/2011

                ""

                A non-citizen woman from Illinois was arrested for voter fraud four and a half years ago. This definitely fits the description of a non-citizen charged with illegal voting.

                I find one arrest five years ago in Illinois not so very big a concern.

                It seems that hysterical terror of non-citizens voting illegally might not be warranted.
                Let me make it straight. I found it for you. I am sure you can find some more if you spend more time on the Internet.

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                • #38
                  huntercf
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3114

                  Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                  I do not believe that illegal immigrants invaders are fugitives from the law.
                  or is in hiding, especially to avoid arrest or persecution:
                  "fugitives from justice"
                  Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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                  • #39
                    teg33
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 3441

                    Come on guys, there's no such things of illegal immigrant or illegal invaders, or illegal aliens. According Mrs Clinton the beast, there's only "future" Democrats.

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                    • #40
                      Wes C Addle
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 1867

                      Originally posted by huntercf
                      or is in hiding, especially to avoid arrest or persecution:
                      "fugitives from justice"
                      invaders? the state of California would disagree. Asian carp are invaders.

                      lol

                      they're hardly in hiding and don't fear arrest or prosecution from local police departments.

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                      • #41
                        TempleKnight
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 918

                        Originally posted by huntercf
                        or is in hiding, especially to avoid arrest or persecution:
                        "fugitives from justice"
                        Seiously? Never heard of sanctuary cities?
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                        • #42
                          Wes C Addle
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 1867

                          there are also plenty of Canadians who overstay their visas. I've personally known of at least 5 in the past 2 years.

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                          • #43
                            dustoff31
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8209

                            Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                            how exactly are they fugitives from the law if the law is allowing them to live here freely?

                            LOL
                            The law is not allowing them to live here freely. Certain individuals currently in office are refusing to enforce the law. Fortunately, their policies expire when their terms of office do. Which is not to say that the new people won't have the same policy, but we can hope.
                            "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                            • #44
                              huntercf
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3114

                              Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                              invaders? the state of California would disagree. Asian carp are invaders.

                              lol

                              they're hardly in hiding and don't fear arrest or prosecution from local police departments.
                              Originally posted by TempleKnight
                              Seiously? Never heard of sanctuary cities?
                              The laws have not changed, certain politicians in order to gain favor are refusing to enforce the laws, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

                              Sanctuary cities are not federal decree, they are local politicos who choose to ignore federal law and 0vomit refuses to crack down on them, even when citizens are murdered.
                              Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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                              • #45
                                Wes C Addle
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 1867

                                well, they're here and they aren't just from Latin America, they're from Canada and all other countries. nothing you or I can do about it.

                                can't we all get along?

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