CA illegals and guns??

[huntercf]

Since the nazis in sacrapmento have violated federal law and have now granted voting rights to those in the country illegally can they now purchase firearms?

They will have a license and possible car registration now. They would just need to lie on the 4473 about being an illegal alien, which is nothing to them since they are fugitives from the law aided and abetted by the democratic party.

Does this open up the legal firearm trade to the cartels because they can now use illegals to do straw purchases. Also, doesn't this defeat the argument for background checks because they are basically being thwarted by the same party that is advocating for increased background checks?

[Tere_Hanges]

Wow, can't believe your serious.

[PyroFox79]

No the cartels, from what I've heard, have just started making their own guns. And seriously if they were goog to straw purchase them don't you think they would do it in a state that has more selection and looser guns laws than CA?

[nate76239]

Having a California DL isn't going to make them pass a federal background check. Like the guy above says they can have their straw purchasers get something in another state that isn't neutered

[huntercf]

No the cartels, from what I've heard, have just started making their own guns. And seriously if they were goog to straw purchase them don't you think they would do it in a state that has more selection and looser guns laws than CA?

I would except CA is now giving licenses to illegals, if they are not already in the system (have a record) how is the NCIS going to distinguish between citizen and illegal? I doubt if that system checks against birth records since they don't use your SS#.

To the above poster, yes I am serious.

[Barang]

And seriously if they were goog to straw purchase them don't you think they would do it in a state that has more selection and looser guns laws than CA?

The reason why they'll do it here in kommi state is because they are able to get DL that they can use to purchase firearms. I don't think other states allow CA DL to buy firearms.

[I Swan]

I think licenses for illegals are marked differently than normal ones like they say I for immigrant on them or something. It is amazing what they allow them to do these days. Free education, ability to open a bank account, the list goes on and on.

[P5Ret]

Have you seen what's written on the license?

"This card is not acceptable for federal purposes; it is acceptable for driving privileges only. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits."

You'd have to find a pretty foolish FFL to sell to someone with that printed in red on their license.

[riderr]

AB-60 clearly states "Federal limits apply" on the front and "This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits" on the back. It just screams out that the bearer had no legal status. A big red flag.

[Loubot10]

I would except CA is now giving licenses to illegals, if they are not already in the system (have a record) how is the NCIS going to distinguish between citizen and illegal? I doubt if that system checks against birth records since they don't use your SS#.

To the above poster, yes I am serious.

Just because you choose not to list your SS# (to keep it off of unsecured loose paperwork) doesn't mean they don't check and trace you by your SS# during the background check. They do.

They cross check your name against SS#'s to find the one that most closely matches your background. They also get red flagged by discrepancies in SS#'s if someone has stolen your identity. Happened to my buddy this year.

So, an illegal wouldn't just have to lie about being a U.S. Citizen, he would have to provide sufficient personal history to prove it.

Why the heck would an illegal try to illegally purchase a gun in this way? There are plenty of guns on the street that don't warrant Federal and State scrutiny.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

Since the nazis in sacrapmento have violated federal law and have now granted voting rights to those in the country illegally can they now purchase firearms?

They will have a license and possible car registration now. They would just need to lie on the 4473 about being an illegal alien, which is nothing to them since they are fugitives from the law aided and abetted by the democratic party.

Does this open up the legal firearm trade to the cartels because they can now use illegals to do straw purchases. Also, doesn't this defeat the argument for background checks because they are basically being thwarted by the same party that is advocating for increased background checks?

Wait, wait, what??

Non-citizens don't vote. The requirements are that you have to be over 18, a resident of California and a Citizen of the US.

Have I missed something really important here?

Fill me in please, where and when have non-citizens voted?

[Wes C Addle]

Since the nazis in sacrapmento have violated federal law and have now granted voting rights to those in the country illegally can they now purchase firearms?

They will have a license and possible car registration now. They would just need to lie on the 4473 about being an illegal alien, which is nothing to them since they are fugitives from the law aided and abetted by the democratic party.

Does this open up the legal firearm trade to the cartels because they can now use illegals to do straw purchases. Also, doesn't this defeat the argument for background checks because they are basically being thwarted by the same party that is advocating for increased background checks?

how exactly are they fugitives from the law if the law is allowing them to live here freely?

LOL

[prod39]

Well, They steal them anyway !!
Besides, it's illegal for them to own them,,,,but,,,,,Wait !,,,,this is communistfornia,,,,sooo, they don't go to jail anyway,,,soooo ???

What was the question ?

[desertjosh]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1107673

Here you go OP.

[TempleKnight]

Wait, wait, what??

Non-citizens don't vote. The requirements are that you have to be over 18, a resident of California and a Citizen of the US.

Have I missed something really important here?

Fill me in please, where and when have non-citizens voted?

Not sure if you're serious. A quick Google turns up plenty of evidence.

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/