Do you own a gun?

[sl0re10]

Standard question. There was a thread about this a while back.
I wouldn't take offense, but would ask them to test for lead in your blood.

funny story; I was about to have major surgery and one of the questions was whether I had been exposed to any chemicals or health risk like stuff...

So I said yes; lead*.

They didn't know what to do. I asked about getting a test and they said no. I was like; why do you even ask then? Lame.

* not just guns; I also work with it for other things

[sl0re10]

Lol, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

How to paranoid people like you even function? Your doctor is the person you have chosen to trust with the handling of your genitals and inspection of your prostate. Yet you think when he/she asks about guns they are furthering some shadowy government agenda?

A lot of people die every year from guns. Many people suffer adverse health conditions due to lead exposure. Pretending that gun ownership and use doesn't come with health risks is just plain ignorant. They also ask if you smoke, if you drink alcohol, how many hot dogs you eat in a week...

the question has nothing to do with lead exposure. It is a lead in to telling you about the debunked study that gun owners are more likely to be shot than non gun owners and thus they are a health and safety risk / do not make you safer. But the paranoid part has a basis in fact. It will become part of your electronic health record and follow you around unless a law is passed to get it out.

[CSACANNONEER]

I haven't been asked by my doctor and have intentionally kept quiet. But when he needs to dig a couple shotgun pellets out of me after a hunting incident it is kind of hard to keep it under wraps. lol

Being shot does not equate to owning guns. Having a doctor remove a butt load of rock salt pellets just means you didn't run as fast as your older cousins. At least, that's the story my dad tells.

[nelson84]

Were you being treated for depression at the time when the doctor asked?

[Epaphroditus]

"Why, yes. It's stuck in my rectum ... that's why I'm here"

[SonofWWIIDI]

The irony here is that your wife or girlfriend has certainly been asked if you PIIHB by their doctor.

Yes but the doc hasn't by Thise he is questioning...probably.

[bk23103]

And they should make the call. If you are having a rough time enough to seek professional mental health and take mind altering medication for the problem perhaps you should consider having a friend or family member hold on to them for you.

I tend to agree, but where do you draw the line? What if you just want a therapist to talk to? For many gun owners, the fear of having their guns taken away from someone who is acting from a liability standpoint in our litigious society could potentially discourage them from getting mental health treatment. This could dissuade a lot of gun owners from being open and honest with their health care provider. I can see both sides to this.

[ChuckDizzle]

the question has nothing to do with lead exposure. It is a lead in to telling you about the debunked study that gun owners are more likely to be shot than non gun owners and thus they are a health and safety risk / do not make you safer. But the paranoid part has a basis in fact. It will become part of your electronic health record and follow you around unless a law is passed to get it out.

Buahahahaha, part of your electronic health file that follows you!

Does your file also note your paranoid delusions? So what if they know you have guns. Yes, if you own guns you are statistically more likely to suffer from a gunshot wound. Just like someone who owns a car is more likely be involved in an auto collision. It is a simple correlation.

Be honest with your doctor, they will just remind you about safe storage and hand washing.

[ChuckDizzle]

I tend to agree, but where do you draw the line? What if you just want a therapist to talk to? For many gun owners, the fear of having their guns taken away from someone who is acting from a liability standpoint in our litigious society could potentially discourage them from getting mental health treatment. This could dissuade a lot of gun owners from being open and honest with their health care provider. I can see both sides to this.

I would say as soon as you are prescribed something you aren't fit to possess firearms. That goes for prosac too. I feel we are already an over-medicated society in regards to psychiatric care. Talking to a psychologist, no, keep the same rules of danger to self/others. I think we've seen enough evidence regarding increased suicide risk, and the common thread between mass shooters taking prescription psychiatric meds though to draw the line there.

I know that is going to seem harsh, but it also comes down to self-policing. My wife and I were having some real tough times and bad fights so I had a friend hold on to the rifle/shotgun bolts and a few pistols for me until things calmed down. I have a friend who is a recovering alcoholic with whom I shoot regularly. He fell off the wagon (is it on the wagon or off the wagon) a few years ago and I held on to his pistol and rifle bolt until he sobered up good for a while.

[JDay]

It's actually illegal per the Affordable Care Act to collect that information.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolynmcclanahan/2012/07/23/gun-owner-rights-and-obamacare-yes-it-is-in-the-law/

[OffGrid]

My doctor is my wifes best friend and since I have helped her husband build a couple ARs and AK I think she already knows.

But when asked she said she has never asked anyone that question and never will.

[vliberatore]

Did the doctor mentioned anything else after you said "yes"? Like giving you advice/recommendation on guns?

My old MD talked about his HKs. He went to the Citadel and shoots quite a bit.

[dfletcher]

I would have grabbed my junk and said yes.

Or, "yes - you just grabbed it and told me to cough"

[sl0re10]

Buahahahaha, part of your electronic health file that follows you!

Does your file also note your paranoid delusions? So what if they know you have guns. Yes, if you own guns you are statistically more likely to suffer from a gunshot wound. Just like someone who owns a car is more likely be involved in an auto collision. It is a simple correlation.

Be honest with your doctor, they will just remind you about safe storage and hand washing.

it not paranoid; its electronic health records. Making a mold claim on your home insurance is also a bad idea btw.... just saying...

Criminals with guns are statistically more likely to be shot than the general pop. Yes. They get counted as gun owners in this study. Thats why its crap. Normal gun owners being shot are pretty much within the margin of error compared to the general pop.

They'll tell you about the study; or at least that's where the medical groups came up with the idea it was a health issue they should ask about.... including the caveat about arguing that they don't make you safer. When the reality is the study is propaganda.

But anyway; the history of where the question came from and its justification is not my opinion... it's all documented...

You called me paranoid so only fair I point out your clueless... its about lead exposure... pffftt..

[sl0re10]

It's actually illegal per the Affordable Care Act to collect that information.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolynm...is-in-the-law/

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