What paperwork to carry

[JDay]

It sounds like submitting a Firearm Ownership Record is not a bad idea. But at $19 per gun it can add up real fast.

Why would it be a good idea? Is it any business of the state while rifles/shotguns you own?

[chickenfried]

[tombinghamthegreat]

Why would it be a good idea? Is it any business of the state while rifles/shotguns you own?

Depends on how some might respond to the question "what should be the role of government?" I for one do not want government employees sticking their nose into my business.

[biscuitbarrel]

On the doj web site is says that the record of ownership will make it easier to get your guns back if they are confiscated.

[Jpach]

I know an officer can check if the firearm is loaded, but they do not have the right to run the serial # without your consent correct??? Thats what I understood from reading the OC threads

[jrsportssupply]

As sorensen440 said, DROS does not equal registration for long guns. In fact, the manufacturer/type of rifle/serial number information isn't even sent in to the state when running a DROS on a long gun. All the state knows (and the fed, by extension), is that the purchaser bought 1 or more long guns.

The fed form 4473 is kept by the dealer for manual firearms tracing should that become necessary in the future. This is the ONLY place where it is documented what the buyer actually bought.

If it becomes necessary to trace a long gun, the BATFE calls the mfr with the serial # of the gun, who then refers them to the distributor who bought the gun, who refers them to the dealer who bought the gun, who then looks up the 4473 to see who bought the long gun.

Therefore, there is no way a police officer would know if a long gun is registered to a particular person or not. That information is not available to the police.

This is NOT true of CA registered assault weapons - those long guns were registered separately, after purchase, and that information IS kept by DOJ and is readily available to police officers.

[tombinghamthegreat]

On the doj web site is says that the record of ownership will make it easier to get your guns back if they are confiscated.

The DOj is not a reliable source for legal info, they tend to give out false info out of ignorance or to intentally spread FUD.

[onyx]

This will help :http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/Sac...2008-11-18.pdf

Let me know what you guys think

[likitung]

Wow that's a good document. The thing is that no matter how familiar with the law we all are, if a LEO decides to confiscate your legal rifles, you have to go through all the red tape to prove they are legal and to get them back.