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  • #16
    quickcf
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 265

    I see. Now I get it. Thanks for the clarification/education. I'm always learning on this site.

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    • #17
      surfinguru
      Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 279

      Well to all the ney-sayers...I've heard the wonderful LEO's of Watsonville have been pulling people over and when found to have long guns in possession, they've been requesting proof of ownership. If none can be provided, they'll confiscate your gun until further proof can be provided.

      True or not, why go through all the hassle? I keep a photo copy of bill-of-sale in addition to the flow-chart in my rifle case. The quicker I can put an end to any "encounter" the better off I'll be.

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      • #18
        Casual Observer
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1400

        Originally posted by sorensen440
        Dros is the dealer record of sale that is destroyed after 30 days (I think its 30)
        It's actually about 14 days. If you try to re-print a DROS from 15+ days ago, there's nothing there to print.

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        • #19
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          Originally posted by surfinguru
          Well to all the ney-sayers...I've heard the wonderful LEO's of Watsonville have been pulling people over and when found to have long guns in possession, they've been requesting proof of ownership. If none can be provided, they'll confiscate your gun until further proof can be provided.
          Wow..

          That's pretty illegal.
          Please read the Calguns Wiki
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #20
            sorensen440
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2007
            • 8611

            Originally posted by surfinguru
            Well to all the ney-sayers...I've heard the wonderful LEO's of Watsonville have been pulling people over and when found to have long guns in possession, they've been requesting proof of ownership. If none can be provided, they'll confiscate your gun until further proof can be provided.

            True or not, why go through all the hassle? I keep a photo copy of bill-of-sale in addition to the flow-chart in my rifle case. The quicker I can put an end to any "encounter" the better off I'll be.
            I call bull on this one

            They are smarter then that
            "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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            • #21
              sorensen440
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2007
              • 8611

              Originally posted by Casual Observer
              It's actually about 14 days. If you try to re-print a DROS from 15+ days ago, there's nothing there to print.
              I stand corrected ( I wasn't sure about the 30)
              "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                hawk1
                In Memoriam
                • Dec 2005
                • 7555

                A DROS is done to make sure the buyer is not prohibited from owning firearms.
                As said, a long gun DROS does not register the rifle or shotgun
                A handgun DROS will register the handgun in your name.


                sigpicNRA LIFE MEMBER

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                • #23
                  tombinghamthegreat
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2785

                  Also be aware of the transport laws, use the search button. Never hurts to always have a long gun with ammo in the back of your trunk just in case.

                  Originally posted by surfinguru
                  Well to all the ney-sayers...I've heard the wonderful LEO's of Watsonville have been pulling people over and when found to have long guns in possession, they've been requesting proof of ownership. If none can be provided, they'll confiscate your gun until further proof can be provided.

                  True or not, why go through all the hassle? I keep a photo copy of bill-of-sale in addition to the flow-chart in my rifle case. The quicker I can put an end to any "encounter" the better off I'll be.
                  One i am detecting FUD and two there is a such thing a the 5th amendment, the right to remain silent. So if a cop asks about a firearm tell them you have nothing illegal and leave it at that. If they ask to search the car say no, use the 4th amendment to your advanage.

                  EDIT: some guns are not bought though a FFL such as c&r long guns so proving you own it might be a problem.
                  "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
                  "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
                  Originally posted by forumguy
                  The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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                  • #24
                    sorensen440
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 8611

                    Originally posted by tombinghamthegreat

                    EDIT: some guns are not bought though a FFL such as c&r long guns so proving you own it might be a problem.
                    not just that but many stores are not giving you a copy anymore (I'm sure they would if you ask for it but why bother ?)
                    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #25
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by surfinguru
                      Well to all the ney-sayers...I've heard the wonderful LEO's of Watsonville have been pulling people over and when found to have long guns in possession, they've been requesting proof of ownership. If none can be provided, they'll confiscate your gun until further proof can be provided.

                      True or not, why go through all the hassle? I keep a photo copy of bill-of-sale in addition to the flow-chart in my rifle case. The quicker I can put an end to any "encounter" the better off I'll be.
                      They are breaking the law then, its the burden of the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime has been committed. You have no requirement to prove that you lawfully purchased your long guns.
                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #26

                        Originally posted by quickcf
                        As long as your rifles/lower were dros'ed you're ok. No need for paperwork. You should probably carry the CA AW ID Flowchart just in case:

                        http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

                        What if they are not DROSED?

                        I have a friend who might move form Reno, and he is being told he doesn't need to DROS anything, that it's legal and no registration is required on long guns??

                        So what if he gets pulled over and his rifle is not DROSED?

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                        • #27
                          CHS
                          Moderator Emeritus
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11338

                          Originally posted by Steve O
                          What if they are not DROSED?

                          I have a friend who might move form Reno, and he is being told he doesn't need to DROS anything, that it's legal and no registration is required on long guns??

                          So what if he gets pulled over and his rifle is not DROSED?
                          Nothing.

                          All of the above is legal.

                          ONLY HANDGUNS are registered in CA.
                          Please read the Calguns Wiki
                          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                          • #28

                            Originally posted by sorensen440
                            Dros is the dealer record of sale that is destroyed after 30 days
                            Is this true? lol. Well that's what they may say anyways.....

                            So the state charges you a fee for doing this DROS, then they say they destroy the records after 30 days?

                            That sounds like the "Safeway card card" that they say isn't used to track your spending habits...my response is always "Then why do we have to use this ****ing card to save?"
                            Last edited by Guest; 12-05-2008, 1:09 AM.

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                            • #29
                              likitung
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4

                              It sounds like submitting a Firearm Ownership Record is not a bad idea. But at $19 per gun it can add up real fast.

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                              • #30
                                JDay
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19393

                                Originally posted by Steve O
                                What if they are not DROSED?

                                I have a friend who might move form Reno, and he is being told he doesn't need to DROS anything, that it's legal and no registration is required on long guns??

                                So what if he gets pulled over and his rifle is not DROSED?
                                The most an officer would do is check if its loaded and run the serial numbers to check if its stolen.
                                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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