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  • #31
    TurboChrisB
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 5116

    I was told it was for poaching. That it was too difficult to identify where the poachers were if they were to use suppressors on state land.


    Originally posted by Bansh88
    I looked into the history of Suppressors not too long ago.
    Appears the restrictions on them came from The Great Depression era to keep the poor from hunting on rich peoples property.

    Classic.

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    • #32
      Junkie
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 4848

      Originally posted by Aloha
      I am going to be new to CA and have an NFA registered can. I thought I could not bring it.

      I understand I can bring most of my guns, but can I also bring the can?

      Also, off topic, but can an NFA registered SBR be imported to CA?

      Mahalo!
      I've seen one person with a can but he was a kitchen table FFL. If you're a normal person I doubt it. The same is true for the SBR (unless it's C&R).
      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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      • #33
        dwalker
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 2714

        Originally posted by audiophil2
        You must have shot some leaky suppressors or did not have the right setup.

        While a suppressed 556/223 will be loud due to the sonic boom, running subsonic ammo will keep it quiet enough to make it hard to notice. I don't use subsonic 556 ammo but suppressed subsonic 9mm out of a full auto AR sounds like a paintball gun.

        A .22 pistol with a squirt of compressed air in the can is barely louder than the clicking sound of a ratchet wrench. My 9 year old loves shooting my SW MP22 pistol with a Spectre II on it as well as our full auto .22 AR's.

        IF I shot any of my suppressed guns in my back yard none of my neighbors would know. Unless I invited them over to try, of course.
        Agreed. My 300blk suppressed you hear the whipcrack of the bullet- which souds a bit like far off lightning, nothing like a gunshot- and not much else. Standing next to it you do not need earpro at all and it is way quieter than even a 22 rifle.

        A .223 can on my 22lr pistol is ridiculously quiet, like all you hear at 15 yards is the bullet impacting whatever you just hit.

        I love suppressors, there just no downside to them other than you shoot more, your wife shoots more....
        Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

        Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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        • #34
          Mac Attack
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 2126

          I use line pulling gel in my .22 and .45 suppressors. It's messy but darn if it doesn't quiet things down much.

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          • #35
            dwalker
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 2714

            Originally posted by Aloha
            I am going to be new to CA and have an NFA registered can. I thought I could not bring it.

            I understand I can bring most of my guns, but can I also bring the can?

            Also, off topic, but can an NFA registered SBR be imported to CA?

            Mahalo!
            Not easily. The ATF told me I would have to sell them, but I was able to legally leave them in care of a member of my trust.
            Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

            Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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            • #36
              dwalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2714

              Originally posted by P5Ret
              Don't you have to submit a new application (or whatever they call it) due to a change of state of residence? Along with authorization to transport it interstate? Something you may find difficult to get being as Ca is involved.
              No, but you do have to call and let the ATF know you are traveling across state lines and where, or if you move.
              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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              • #37
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19682

                Originally posted by Aloha
                I am going to be new to CA and have an NFA registered can. I thought I could not bring it.

                I understand I can bring most of my guns, but can I also bring the can?

                Also, off topic, but can an NFA registered SBR be imported to CA?

                Mahalo!
                Originally posted by Aloha
                I was planning on transferring it to a friend, as I assumed that I can not bring it. Just saw the thread about suppressors and it gave a glimmer of hope that I may be able to retain ownership.
                Nope. Don't transfer them - too much hassle and $200 each, not to mention a 9 month wait. Get a safe deposit box and store it in there. If the sbr is an AR, strip the lower and store it.

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                • #38
                  rromeo
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6981

                  Originally posted by dwalker
                  No, but you do have to call and let the ATF know you are traveling across state lines and where, or if you move.
                  There is no requirement to get ATF permission for taking suppressors and AOWs across state lines, just that the items are legal in that state.
                  Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                  - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                  (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                  • #39
                    dwalker
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 2714

                    Originally posted by rromeo
                    There is no requirement to get ATF permission for taking suppressors and AOWs across state lines, just that the items are legal in that state.
                    Thats not what they said when we spoke with them about going back and forth from CO to WY, or flying from TN to CO, but its been a while since I asked the question and I could be misremembering their preference as a requirement.

                    If in doubt call the ATF, everyone I have ever dealt with there has been at least professional and usually very personable and helpful.
                    Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                    Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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                    • #40
                      vintagearms
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 6841

                      Originally posted by dwalker
                      Thats not what they said when we spoke with them about going back and forth from CO to WY, or flying from TN to CO, but its been a while since I asked the question and I could be misremembering their preference as a requirement.

                      If in doubt call the ATF, everyone I have ever dealt with there has been at least professional and usually very personable and helpful.
                      Suppressor and AOW's are not included on form 5320.20, thus do not need paperwork to cross state lines.

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                      • #41
                        Intimid8tor
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6607

                        I'm guessing only 4 or 5 of the posters actually own a suppressor.

                        Many states that don't allow hunting with suppressors passed the laws under the guise of catching poachers. A few of those laws get overturned each year.

                        I was not aware that you didn't need to notify atf of suppressor travel. That's good to know though mine don't travel much.

                        Sadly, I haven't shot all of my suppressors yet.

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                        Starve the beast, move to a free state.

                        Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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                        • #42
                          audiophil2
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8736

                          Originally posted by dwalker
                          A .223 can on my 22lr pistol is ridiculously quiet, like all you hear at 15 yards is the bullet impacting whatever you just hit.

                          I love suppressors, there just no downside to them other than you shoot more, your wife shoots more....
                          I teach my son about ricochets by using a suppressor. I have him aim at rocks out in the distance and he can hear the whir as it deflects. It helps him understand about having a proper backdrop and looking at what is behind the target instead of just shooting at anything.

                          My boy has a severe noise sensitivity due to his special needs. He used to have to wear ear muffs at the movies and I had to cover his ears when he used a hand dryer in public restrooms. He is a lot more tolerant now and using suppressors has really got him to enjoy firearms.
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                          • #43
                            Intimid8tor
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6607

                            Originally posted by audiophil2
                            I teach my son about ricochets by using a suppressor. I have him aim at rocks out in the distance and he can hear the whir as it deflects. It helps him understand about having a proper backdrop and looking at what is behind the target instead of just shooting at anything.

                            My boy has a severe noise sensitivity due to his special needs. He used to have to wear ear muffs at the movies and I had to cover his ears when he used a hand dryer in public restrooms. He is a lot more tolerant now and using suppressors has really got him to enjoy firearms.
                            A great example of how suppressors helped someone be able to comfortably partake in the activity.

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                            Starve the beast, move to a free state.

                            Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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                            • #44
                              Sheepdog1968
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1889

                              I know far too many people who have hearing damage from hunting because they don't wear hearing protection so they can listen for animals. It is outrageous that this state doesn't allow them and lots of folks have lost hearing due to Hollywood made up fears of them.
                              RIP Louis Awerbuck. I miss you and your training.

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                              • #45
                                Junkie
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 4848

                                Originally posted by audiophil2
                                I teach my son about ricochets by using a suppressor. I have him aim at rocks out in the distance and he can hear the whir as it deflects. It helps him understand about having a proper backdrop and looking at what is behind the target instead of just shooting at anything.

                                My boy has a severe noise sensitivity due to his special needs. He used to have to wear ear muffs at the movies and I had to cover his ears when he used a hand dryer in public restrooms. He is a lot more tolerant now and using suppressors has really got him to enjoy firearms.
                                I imagine our state government would rather keep people away, and keep shutting down ranges due to noise, both of which suppressors would counteract.
                                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                                A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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