FL CCWer charged with second-degree murder

[dwalker]

You'd use deadly force on an unarmed person to avoid what appeared to be either a yelling match, or at most a fist fight? The two guys involved were of similar age. Unless you're already injured and afraid of losing your firearm (you're fighting over it) to a much larger and younger/more fit man, you're going to jail almost overtime. Your defense of "fearing for your life" or fantasy of defending your family under the same circumstances would not be justified in any state, let alone uber liberal-gun hating Cali.

A firearm is not a substitute for being a normal man.

Im not sure if under the Castle laws if thats true. It probably is here in hippyland, but in many places in free America if your on my property and I feel threatened and you do not leave I believe thats is a legit SD situation.

According to the prosecutor, the Colorado law protects a homeowner who uses deadly force to repel an intruder, if the homeowner believes that the intruder intends to commit a crime. The law is based on the so-called "Castle Doctrine," which holds that a homeowner is justified in using deadly force to protect his home, i.e., his "castle."

Colorado did not join many other these states in expanding the scope of the "Make my Day" law to include incidents occurring outside the home. These statutes are often referred to as "stand your ground" laws because they authorize the use of deadly force anywhere, if a person feels another person poses a threat of violence.

I should note that the "stand my ground law" applies to areas your property, like a parking lot, Church, wherever, that you feel the need to defend yourself.

No one is talking about being a bad ***, we are talking about defending ones self and your family. Why is it that so many people believe that fighting for and protecting yourself is wrong? Have you become so de-balled here in hippy land that the very idea of someone not backing down from a threat is seen not as the right thing to do but instead is seen as some sort of macho thuggery?
For pitys sake folks, grow a pair already.

[bruss01]

I am going to assume it was more the fact that both idiots were currently pissed off at each other than just plain old stupidity. When people are angry they don't think rationally.

Agreed.

If a minor traffic disagreement enrages someone to the point that they lose the capacity for rational thought, then that is exactly the kind of person we don't want walking around the everyday world with the rest of us. If a minor traffic blip incites you to homicidal rage... you need a time out. Like a 20 year time out.

[cpiaaq]

Anyone have links to the complete 911 recordings?

[R Dale]

I think as for what we know now both parties were at fault I would never go home in a situation like theirs. I also think its bad news when people with anger problems have weapons.