"Rooster" guns...

[underthesun]

I've never heard of this. Are you saying people are marking up pistols that are no longer on the Approved for Purchase Roster? People wouldn't do that, would they?

I was completing a PPT with a fellow Calgunner the other day and we got to talking about the roster/end of SSE. I now realize that my big mistake during SSE was purchasing off-roster guns that I liked and wanted (boring old school guns and a bunch of CZ pistols). In retrospect, I should have bought as many Blocks and "in demand" guns as possible so that I could have been making a killing ($$$) right now:face palm:

Oh well, I am already working on my strategy for The Great Gun and Ammunition Panic of 2016 (Thank you Hilary, Gavin, and Kamala). Make sure to hit me up around this time next year, I will be offering some great deals on Glocks, AR-15s and especially ammunition in the most popular calibers. LOL

[dfletcher]

But it hurts the 2a community in CA and makes the ones we are trying to convert to our side and fight with us instead of against us.

The people we're trying to "convert" don't know an off roster Sig from an XD nor an XD from a Shield or a Glock. They walk into a gun store, say "wow, you mean I can buy anyone of these" and are content. I've seen it over an again. Were you to tell them "you know, you can't get a Glock 43 in CA" they'd have no idea nor care what you were talking about. The response would be "well I can buy that Glock, so what's the difference?"

They're content, mostly because they don't know enough to be unhappy. Which is how most people go through life anyway.

[deadcoyote]

I've always stayed out of the "price gouging" debates. I've never bought an off roster gun, and sure as hell wouldn't pay extra. I've always personally sided with the crowd that disdains those that mark guns up a bunch and flip em.

I just had to admit, a week ago my friend told me to tell anyone I knew who owned a glock 43 he'd pay $900 for it and he's give me $50 as a finders fee. I thought it was retarded but I guess if you're a 'white collar' type feller and you really want a pistol this is how you do ****e

[AGFNTB]

I agree with being able to profit on any "investment" but in my opinion what some are doing here is nuts, gouging is gouging. At the same time I know its their "right" to be a d*#! head and double or triple the value because its a "rooster" gun, I just don't condone it and was curious where all the others stand. Clearly above I am not alone, thanks all!

So what off roster hand gun(s) do you have that you will sell me for the going used price in a state without restrictions?

[DDH .45]

I'm not letting go of anything rite now...lol..

[liamettocs]

Oh thank God we got another thread complaining about price gouging again. I was about to go into withdrawals because it's been all of three days since the last one.

[Steve_In_29]

I'm not letting go of anything rite now...lol..

Why not?

After all doing so would help the 2A community and convert others to our cause right? I think it is unreasonably selfish for owners of more then one off-roaster gun to withhold those weapons from the marketplace.

[Fishslayer]

I think it is unreasonably selfish for owners of more then one off-roaster gun to withhold those weapons from the marketplace.

Gotta spread the wealth around...

[MrExel17]

Would buy Rooster Guns... But I do miss the SSE Roster...lol

I know what you mean and agree!

[IVC]

Don't like it don't buy it... it IS that Simple!

True - it IS that simple. However, it's still not a "free market" any more than North Korea is a free market - over there the "don't like it don't buy it" also holds true.

[IVC]

I agree with being able to profit on any "investment" but in my opinion what some are doing here is nuts, gouging is gouging. At the same time I know its their "right" to be a d*#! head and double or triple the value because its a "rooster" gun, I just don't condone it and was curious where all the others stand.

I wouldn't call them "a d*#! head" since they are selling at the going rate. It's not their fault that CA decided to manipulate the market. If I were selling today, I'd be selling at the going rate whatever the reason for that rate. Selling for less is charity.

However, I would never call what we have a "free market" because it isn't. Similarly, I see it as gouging, particularly when sold by people who are roster exempt or who have a preferential way of obtaining off roster guns.

[bsg]

life ain't pretty when you live in the city.

[saki302]

For F$#@%@ sake, if you don't like the price, don't buy it.

Look at it from the other point of view- if you sell your off-roster gun, you're taking a chance at NEVER owning that model again (unless you pay high prices).

What's that ownership chance worth to you- 2-3X the price? So be it.

-Dave

[rockwellpest]

FNX Tactical

Yeah, well if you have a FNX in .45 i'd be willing to pay $2000. For a $1000 gun.

[erik_26]

Off-roster handguns that are selling for a >15% markup from MSRP aren't flying off the shelves.

California is winning as usual because they don't want the average Joe/Jane to have off-roster handguns. That is the whole point of the roster. To keep unsafe handguns out of the hands of non-leos.

Obviously the roster is working in several ways, non-roster guns aren't readily available and even sometimes scarce commanding a premium price point. That premium price point is just high enough that ~95% of us aren't willing to pay when they know that it isn't worth it.

Off-roster handguns = not readily accessible and too expensive to exchange hands on the private market = California winning