"Rooster" guns...

[Mitch]

How did I miss this awesome Whining About Marketplace Prices thread? I must have been put off by the poultry-related title. Not only did I not know what a rooster gun was, I didn't wanna know!

Happily, I clicked on the thread by accident!

[GreaterFool]

People who complain about off "rooster" guns price are like the "occupy wallstreet" people. They protest against the 1% on wallstreet then get in line 7 days ahead of new iPhone launch.

[Steponmytoes]

People like to think we are in a "free market" but we are not. We have laws that prohibit all types of activities with all types of trade so people don't get economically raped. So now people tend to get economically molested instead. So if it pisses you off that people are overpaying for a plastic 9mm, then yes it's a little whiny (we're talking off roster guns here, not baby food) but it's ok because this is a community and those people who want $1500 for their Glock 43 are simply trying to take advantage of the community as a whole. But if you think its ok because it has some relation to "how we run things in America", then you're pretty much full of ****...

[Sharp Shooter]

Love it! I think my biggest issue is the guys that clearly pay $300-500 and demand 3x that for a gun. But like I said, to each his own...it's just a douche move in my opinion. I'm not saying don't profit, profits the American way. Get your profit, just don't gouge. As far as the "old collector value increase" that makes sense, it's increased in value with age, or because it's no longer in production.

That's different however than paying (or charging) 2-3 times because it's a "Rooster" I offered someone twice the value of a VP9 yesterday, when he said no I asked if it was because of his cost or if it was because it's off roster. He answered because I can (basically) which is true, just a d-bag move IMO. I can't condone it, just a d-bag...

Just think about the % of mark-up when a $500 SIG, Glock or HK goes for $1200+

Even worse, the M&P shield prices...

So how much markup is "profit" and OK by you and how much markup is gouging and a "d-bag move" according to you. It's all relative you know. Maybe it's the buyers willing to pay the "gouging" prices that are the "d-bags". After all if the sellers couldn't sell at the gouging prices, the prices would come down.

[vliberatore]

How did I miss this awesome Whining About Marketplace Prices thread? I must have been put off by the poultry-related title. Not only did I not know what a rooster gun was, I didn't wanna know!

Happily, I clicked on the thread by accident!

I dropped the ball Mitch, I know how much you love marketplace complaint threads and I should have notified you.

[Sousuke]

In general, I think people have a right to whine about prices, not towards sellers, but towards the government's manipulation of supply. Their intent to dry up the market entirely in 20-30 years.

Frankly, I would be worried if people were NOT complaining.

[Steve_In_29]

Perhaps you should have thought of this before you hit the "Submit" key for your OP.

[Steve_In_29]

In general, I think people have a right to whine about prices, not towards sellers, but towards the government's manipulation of supply. Their intent to dry up the market entirely in 20-30 years.

Frankly, I would be worried if people were NOT complaining.

I don't think there is anyone that disagrees with this statement.

But the OP's rant isn't concerning governmental manipulation of the market. It was simply a childish complaint about having his low offer rejected by a seller and how the seller is somehow a douche bag for not selling his property at the below market value price the OP is willing to pay.

[Mister_stone]

YES I LOVE THIS POST!!!!

[Mister_stone]

Nobody likes price gougers. We all complained when places like cheaperthandirt price gouged and took advantage of us awhile back. And now those same people are price gouging themselves and taking advantage of the "off-roster" guns not being as available. Tisk tisk.

[DDH .45]

People like to think we are in a "free market" but we are not. We have laws that prohibit all types of activities with all types of trade so people don't get economically raped. So now people tend to get economically molested instead. So if it pisses you off that people are overpaying for a plastic 9mm, then yes it's a little whiny (we're talking off roster guns here, not baby food) but it's ok because this is a community and those people who want $1500 for their Glock 43 are simply trying to take advantage of the community as a whole. But if you think its ok because it has some relation to "how we run things in America", then you're pretty much full of ****...

Perfectly said sir!

[toddh]

I'm into appreciation "Todd" and people who can read. I'm all about classics. Selling a LEO purchased Glock days after purchase for 2-3 times your cost isn't appreciation, it's gouging IMO. My original post was asking opinions not proving a point, learn to read...


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It's okay for things to appreciate in value as long as you aren't upset about it.

But the minute it effects you personally, you get b-hurt and started this thread.

And I pointed out 2 things....
You lied about the amount of people that agree with your assertion.
And then you back peddled again when others gave other examples.

And as for asking opinions, you have received a majority of opinions that have come to a pretty obvious conclusion....your behavior in this thread, and defense of that behavior is wrong.

So...maybe, you should actually read what you post, read what others post, and then you will come to the factual and logical conclusion most of here have.

And that is...your wrong on the subject, your opinion is also wrong, and the defense of both shows that you are wrong again.
Now, you can either admit that you are wrong, learn from it and move on.

Or, you can continue to defend your assertion in your original post and go right on being wrong.

Also...it's your assertion that only LEO's are buying guns just to sell a few days later for big profits ??

Well....you are wrong again.

I would suggest that you just let this thread die, and people might forget about it.
Then you might get some dignity back.


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[DDH .45]

So, I've seen a Glock 43 for over $1000.00, VP9 for over $1000.00, 5-$600.00 SIG pistols for $1500.00+


Am I the only one that looks at these against "Free-America" priced guns and... ??

...I have a couple off Roster guns too that I may sale, and I can understand and appreciate a little mark up...but two to three times the price? Oy...

All my original post says (above for those incapable of reading or clicking the back button) is I am surprised and when I see what some folks are willing to pay for pistols. Where am I whining, being childish or a communist? (LoL!) To each his own, there's a couple Glock 43 pistols selling for $600-700 now, to each his own. I just like the occasional chuckle you guys are providing here as well as someone listing, selling or paying some of these prices...

I just choose not to, because I know better.

[DDH .45]

It's okay for things to appreciate in value as long as you aren't upset about it.

But the minute it effects you personally, you get b-hurt and started this thread.

And I pointed out 2 things....
You lied about the amount of people that agree with your assertion.
And then you back peddled again when others gave other examples.

And as for asking opinions, you have received a majority of opinions that have come to a pretty obvious conclusion....your behavior in this thread, and defense of that behavior is wrong.

So...maybe, you should actually read what you post, read what others post, and then you will come to the factual and logical conclusion most of here have.

And that is...your wrong on the subject, your opinion is also wrong, and the defense of both shows that you are wrong again.
Now, you can either admit that you are wrong, learn from it and move on.

Or, you can continue to defend your assertion in your original post and go right on being wrong.

Also...it's your assertion that only LEO's are buying guns just to sell a few days later for big profits ??

Well....you are wrong again.

I would suggest that you just let this thread die, and people might forget about it.
Then you might get some dignity back.


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Wow "Todd" you just rolled over in the mud after some slop, dignity, wrong vs not, it's called an opinion, in which there is no rite or wrong... LOL

You sir amused me at first, now you are no more than a gnat.

[vliberatore]

Nobody likes price gougers. We all complained when places like cheaperthandirt price gouged and took advantage of us awhile back. And now those same people are price gouging themselves and taking advantage of the "off-roster" guns not being as available. Tisk tisk.

And the response to them should be he same as the response to CTD.

Don't buy from them.